Coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) nyhetstråd

[BirgitS]

Två dålig nyheter på en gång.
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Det är samma mutation E484K som ingår i den sydafrikanska varianten. Den varianten har ju vaccin vissa svårigheter att skydda mot liksom antikroppar mot den vanliga europeiska varianten.
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...could-help-virus-evade-immune-system-12206375

 

[engs]

EN myt om att det blir billigare i andra länder.
Jag har erfarenhet av det och för viss produktion är det billigare i Sverige.
Jag tror mycket väl en modern vaccinfabrik mm kunde ligga i Sverige.
Jobbar på privatägt företag som satsar stort på att fortsätta var bland de bästa inom det område vi tillverkar och säljer produkter.

https://www.lifesciencesweden.se/ar...ologics_ska_framstalla_coronavaccin_i_matfors
https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/7578644
Cobra Biologics i Matfors - Någon som vet hur det gått med detta?

Är nästan hundra på att jag har besök en vaccinfabrik runt Sundsvallstrakten i jobbet för +10år sen, kanske +15år sen också, och att den då precis höll på att startas upp. Blev nyfiken nu när det var på tal i tråden och sökte så dök denna upp.

 

[BirgitS]

För att bedöma förekomsten av den brittiska virusvarianten i Sverige har Folkhälsomyndigheten och fyra av landets regioner genomfört en omfattande analysinsats. Sammanlagt har 2 220 prov som var positiva för covid-19 även analyserats för den brittiska virusvarianten. I cirka 250 av proverna återfanns den, vilket motsvarar närmare 11 procent.

De regioner som ingick i stickprovskontrollerna var Västra Götaland, Skåne, Gävleborg och Västmanland.

Resultaten av stickprovsundersökningen är än så länge preliminära och det pågår sekvensering för att bekräfta resultaten.

Som tidigare aviserat avser Folkhälsomyndigheten att rekommendera att alla som rest utomlands testar sig när man kommer hem och sedan igen fem dagar efter hemkomsten. Dessutom bör man undvika kontakter med andra en vecka efter hemkomst, för att minska risken för att fler fall av de nya virusvarianterna kommer in i landet och sprids vidare.

https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se...ng-av-den-brittiska-virusvarianten-i-sverige/

 

[BirgitS]

Som väl mer eller mindre förväntades:

Folkhälsomyndigheten rekommenderar att Astra Zenecas vaccin, som har godkänts för att skydda mot svår sjukdom och död i covid-19, i första hand erbjuds till personer i Sverige som är 18–64 år.

Men det saknas ännu data om hur effektivt vaccinet är när det gäller att skydda mot svår covid-19-sjukdom i de äldre åldersgrupperna.

Rekommendationen kan komma att ändras när ny kunskap om vaccinets effekt bland äldre kommer.

https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se...ccin-rekommenderas-till-personer-under-65-ar/

 

[trähandtag]

Man berättade på pressträffen AZ hade 60% skydd! Vad är detta för skitvaccin....

 

[Ulltand]

Nu handlade ju debattartikeln som Igen länkade till om just rökare så vad syftar du på?
Artikeln börjar med:

På att du jämställde det med nikotin.

Vi vet inte om nikotin kan ha någon skyddande effekt tills den svenska studien av snusare är klar.

Enligt en källa jag har är studien klart men har ännu inte publicerats. Kanske kommer något i närtid.

 

[Ulltand]

Man berättade på pressträffen AZ hade 60% skydd! Vad är detta för skitvaccin....

Det anser inte AZ som genom att ge en annan dosering kommer upp i över 90% skyddseffekt.

 

[Ulltand]

[länk]

Jag hörde om det på radion nyss. Verkligen illa. Ökar risken betydligt för en tredje våg i närtid.

 

[BirgitS]

På att du jämställde det med nikotin.
Vi vet inte om nikotin kan ha någon skyddande effekt tills den svenska studien av snusare är klar.

Det tror jag inte jag har gjort.

Igen länkade till en artikel som handlade om rökare i inlägg #2871 och det var den jag kommenterade först.

Dessutom hade jag flera citat som just gällde nikotin i inlägg #2878.

Så pågår det en studie om snus eller har den blivit nedlagd?

 

[Ulltand]

Så pågår det en studie om snus eller har den blivit nedlagd?

Ja den drog igång i våras/somras och skulle nog varit klar nu. Hittar inget när jag söker men enligt vad jag erfar så har den inte lagts ner.

 

[BirgitS]

Jag hörde om det på radion nyss. Verkligen illa. Ökar risken betydligt för en tredje våg i närtid.

England och Danmark har ju ett minskande antal bekräftade fall så det är inte omöjligt att hålla nere smittspridningen. I UK har antalet nya fall minskat till en tredjedel på ung. 3 veckor. I Danmark är det nu nere på 600-700 fall/dag från att ha legat på över 3000 före jul. Men visst kräver det att folk anstränger sig.

 

[Ulltand]

England och Danmark har ju ett minskande antal bekräftade fall så det är inte omöjligt att hålla nere smittspridningen. I UK har antalet nya fall minskat till en tredjedel på ung. 3 veckor. I Danmark är det nu nere på 600-700 fall/dag från att ha legat på över 3000 före jul. Men visst kräver det att folk anstränger sig.

Men så har de lite tuffare regler i England. Detta gäller för London.

Meeting friends and family

• You must not leave or be outside your home except where necessary.
• You may only leave the home for a limited number of reasons - including shopping for necessities, going to work (if you cannot do so from home), seeking medical assistance, or avoiding domestic abuse.
• If you are clinically extremely vulnerable you should only go out for medical appointments, exercise or if it is essential. You should not attend work.
• You cannot leave your home to meet socially with anyone you do not live with or are not in a support bubble with.
• You may exercise outdoors on your own, with one other person, or with your household or support bubble. This should be limited to once a day, and you should stay in your local area.
• You should stay two metres apart from anyone not in your household, or one metre with precautions (such as a face covering).
• Some support groups can continue with up to 15 participants - but they must not take place in a private home.
• The police can fine you up to £10,000 for taking part in illegal gatherings.

Going to work

• You may only leave your home for work if you cannot reasonably work from home.
• If your job involves working in other people's homes - for instance, as a cleaner, a tradesman or a childminder - you can continue to do so.

Schools and nurseries

• Primary schools, secondary schools and colleges will closed to most pupils until at least 8 March, although they will remain open for vulnerable children and the children of key workers.
• Nurseries and childminders can carry on operating.
• Only a limited number of students will return to university or college for face-to-face teaching before mid-February. These include those studying medicine, dentistry, veterinary science, teacher-training, or social work.

Leisure time

• Pubs, restaurants, bars and cafes are closed. Delivery and takeaway of food and non-alcoholic drinks can continue until 23:00 each evening.
• Alcoholic drinks can continue to be delivered but can no longer be sold as takeaway from pubs or bars.
• Indoor gyms and sports facilities remain closed.
• Outdoor facilities, including gyms, tennis courts and lidos must also close.
• Organised outdoor sport for disabled people is allowed to continue
• All indoor entertainment venues including theatres, concert halls, cinemas, museums and galleries, are closed.
• Outdoor playgrounds may stay open.
• Animal attractions such as zoos, safari parks, aquariums, and wildlife reserves must close.
• Hotels, B&Bs and caravan parks may remain open for a limited number of reasons - for instance, where guests are unable to return to their main home, or would otherwise be made homeless as a result of the accommodation closing.

Shopping

• All non-essential shops must close, although they may operate click-and-collect and delivery services.
• Close contact services, such as hairdressing, tanning, nail and beauty salons must close, along with tattoo parlours, spas, and massage parlours - these services should not be provided in other people's homes.
• Shops that can remain open include supermarkets, pharmacies, garden centres, building merchants and off-licences.
• Petrol stations, automatic car washes, vehicle repair and MOT services, bicycle shops and taxi firms may remain open.
• Moving house will still be allowed, and you will still be able to view properties, while following Covid guidelines.

 

[Nissens]

Men så har de lite tuffare regler i England. Detta gäller för London.

[bild] Meeting friends and family [bild]

• You must not leave or be outside your home except where necessary.
• You may only leave the home for a limited number of reasons - including shopping for necessities, going to work (if you cannot do so from home), seeking medical assistance, or avoiding domestic abuse.
• If you are clinically extremely vulnerable you should only go out for medical appointments, exercise or if it is essential. You should not attend work.
• You cannot leave your home to meet socially with anyone you do not live with or are not in a support bubble with.
• You may exercise outdoors on your own, with one other person, or with your household or support bubble. This should be limited to once a day, and you should stay in your local area.
• You should stay two metres apart from anyone not in your household, or one metre with precautions (such as a face covering).
• Some support groups can continue with up to 15 participants - but they must not take place in a private home.
• The police can fine you up to £10,000 for taking part in illegal gatherings.

[bild] Going to work [bild]

• You may only leave your home for work if you cannot reasonably work from home.
• If your job involves working in other people's homes - for instance, as a cleaner, a tradesman or a childminder - you can continue to do so.

[bild] Schools and nurseries [bild]

• Primary schools, secondary schools and colleges will closed to most pupils until at least 8 March, although they will remain open for vulnerable children and the children of key workers.
• Nurseries and childminders can carry on operating.
• Only a limited number of students will return to university or college for face-to-face teaching before mid-February. These include those studying medicine, dentistry, veterinary science, teacher-training, or social work.

[bild] Leisure time [bild]

• Pubs, restaurants, bars and cafes are closed. Delivery and takeaway of food and non-alcoholic drinks can continue until 23:00 each evening.
• Alcoholic drinks can continue to be delivered but can no longer be sold as takeaway from pubs or bars.
• Indoor gyms and sports facilities remain closed.
• Outdoor facilities, including gyms, tennis courts and lidos must also close.
• Organised outdoor sport for disabled people is allowed to continue
• All indoor entertainment venues including theatres, concert halls, cinemas, museums and galleries, are closed.
• Outdoor playgrounds may stay open.
• Animal attractions such as zoos, safari parks, aquariums, and wildlife reserves must close.
• Hotels, B&Bs and caravan parks may remain open for a limited number of reasons - for instance, where guests are unable to return to their main home, or would otherwise be made homeless as a result of the accommodation closing.

[bild] Shopping [bild]

• All non-essential shops must close, although they may operate click-and-collect and delivery services.
• Close contact services, such as hairdressing, tanning, nail and beauty salons must close, along with tattoo parlours, spas, and massage parlours - these services should not be provided in other people's homes.
• Shops that can remain open include supermarkets, pharmacies, garden centres, building merchants and off-licences.
• Petrol stations, automatic car washes, vehicle repair and MOT services, bicycle shops and taxi firms may remain open.
• Moving house will still be allowed, and you will still be able to view properties, while following Covid guidelines.

Märkligt att det gått så illa för dem då...

 

[Ulltand]

Märkligt att det gått så illa för dem då...

Infört dom för sent.

Du vet i början av pandemin fick britterna beröm av Tegnell för sitt öppna samhälle.

Sedan gick det som det gick.

 

[BirgitS]

Men så har de lite tuffare regler i England. Detta gäller för London.

[bild] Meeting friends and family [bild]

• You must not leave or be outside your home except where necessary.
• You may only leave the home for a limited number of reasons - including shopping for necessities, going to work (if you cannot do so from home), seeking medical assistance, or avoiding domestic abuse.
• If you are clinically extremely vulnerable you should only go out for medical appointments, exercise or if it is essential. You should not attend work.
• You cannot leave your home to meet socially with anyone you do not live with or are not in a support bubble with.
• You may exercise outdoors on your own, with one other person, or with your household or support bubble. This should be limited to once a day, and you should stay in your local area.
• You should stay two metres apart from anyone not in your household, or one metre with precautions (such as a face covering).
• Some support groups can continue with up to 15 participants - but they must not take place in a private home.
• The police can fine you up to £10,000 for taking part in illegal gatherings.

[bild] Going to work [bild]

• You may only leave your home for work if you cannot reasonably work from home.
• If your job involves working in other people's homes - for instance, as a cleaner, a tradesman or a childminder - you can continue to do so.

[bild] Schools and nurseries [bild]

• Primary schools, secondary schools and colleges will closed to most pupils until at least 8 March, although they will remain open for vulnerable children and the children of key workers.
• Nurseries and childminders can carry on operating.
• Only a limited number of students will return to university or college for face-to-face teaching before mid-February. These include those studying medicine, dentistry, veterinary science, teacher-training, or social work.

[bild] Leisure time [bild]

• Pubs, restaurants, bars and cafes are closed. Delivery and takeaway of food and non-alcoholic drinks can continue until 23:00 each evening.
• Alcoholic drinks can continue to be delivered but can no longer be sold as takeaway from pubs or bars.
• Indoor gyms and sports facilities remain closed.
• Outdoor facilities, including gyms, tennis courts and lidos must also close.
• Organised outdoor sport for disabled people is allowed to continue
• All indoor entertainment venues including theatres, concert halls, cinemas, museums and galleries, are closed.
• Outdoor playgrounds may stay open.
• Animal attractions such as zoos, safari parks, aquariums, and wildlife reserves must close.
• Hotels, B&Bs and caravan parks may remain open for a limited number of reasons - for instance, where guests are unable to return to their main home, or would otherwise be made homeless as a result of the accommodation closing.

[bild] Shopping [bild]

• All non-essential shops must close, although they may operate click-and-collect and delivery services.
• Close contact services, such as hairdressing, tanning, nail and beauty salons must close, along with tattoo parlours, spas, and massage parlours - these services should not be provided in other people's homes.
• Shops that can remain open include supermarkets, pharmacies, garden centres, building merchants and off-licences.
• Petrol stations, automatic car washes, vehicle repair and MOT services, bicycle shops and taxi firms may remain open.
• Moving house will still be allowed, and you will still be able to view properties, while following Covid guidelines.

Mycket av det där gäller ju redan här. Men ökar antalet nya fall här så lär det bli fler åtgärder här också.

Tror du verkligen att det är risk för högre smittspridning om folk tränar utomhus två gånger på en dag i stället för en gång?
Mindre risk att bli smittad på ett byggvaruhus än i en möbelaffär?

Ang. England så var det väl under helgen som jag skrev ett inlägg med en länk till en sida där det framgick att privata fester med 15 personer var tillåtna. Gäller ju inte London men andra delar av landet.