Vad är dessa? ( i engelska, various electric gizmos, thermostats, etc?)
Hej,
I hope English is ok here.
Sorry I don't have a very descriptive title for the subject line, it's very hard to fit a description of these things into a short sentence - considering I don't really know what they do.
My wife and I bought a house last year, it's from the 1920s, which had an extension built in the 70s.
There are a few (mostly unlabelled - or not googleable) things that are still a mystery to us, so was hoping someone here would know what they are for.
1) a thermostat ( labelled Penn PLT 16-44) by the fusebox/elcentral in the basement:
Rotating the screw on this far enough, will kill the power to the radiators in the house ( and turns off a big red light by the fusebox too )... Rotating it back doesn't seem to restore power, and seemingly have to "wait it out" for about 45minutes before the radiators come back on.
I'm hoping someone can explain what this is for? I would guess it's possibly some rudimentary kill switch - if it's too hot then the radiators probably aren't needed. As I'm looking at replacing the ancient radiators in the house with ones that are more centered around per-room temperature is it worth having this device removed - if it is a central kill switch that is?
2) This is something in another area of the basement, near where we have the shower and sauna:
The pipes above have a fan in that go all the way up to our fireplace in the lounge, that has some sort of airing system to blow out hot air (heated by the fireplace).
This box is however a mystery, there is a temperature probe sticking out to the right, and holding it in your hand will increase the temperature on the display, however the temperature seems way off, e.g. it currently says 0C, which I know the temp in the basement hasn't gotten that low. It also switches between the temperature and "AL".
It seems to act as some kind of junction box as well as the light switch is cabled through it as well.
The box has an "uttag" on the left hand side, and another thermostat type thing near it, turning the thermostat off appears to have no effect.
The buttons on the display appear to do nothing. However earlier in the year my wife pressed the white button on the box, which caused it to start making a buzzing sound. The only way to stop it was to kill the power to the house and turn it back on again. I'm at a loss as to what this is for?
3) I believe this one is just mainly "left over" and is in the stairwell down to the basement:
I get that the box in the middle is a step down transformer from 220v down to 24v. It appears that the transfomer has two sets of cables coming out, one I believe is used for the few door bells that are placed around the house when someone knocks on the door.
The other set goes into the box/cage on the right labelled "motorvärmare", but I cannot see any remains anywhere of something used as a car heater. I would imagine that since most nowadays are plugged into the regular outlets, this kind of system became obsolete, but was never removed. Is anyone able to confirm that?
Any help on solving these mysteries would be greatly appreciated
Tack så mycket
Ben
I hope English is ok here.
Sorry I don't have a very descriptive title for the subject line, it's very hard to fit a description of these things into a short sentence - considering I don't really know what they do.My wife and I bought a house last year, it's from the 1920s, which had an extension built in the 70s.
There are a few (mostly unlabelled - or not googleable) things that are still a mystery to us, so was hoping someone here would know what they are for.
1) a thermostat ( labelled Penn PLT 16-44) by the fusebox/elcentral in the basement:
Rotating the screw on this far enough, will kill the power to the radiators in the house ( and turns off a big red light by the fusebox too )... Rotating it back doesn't seem to restore power, and seemingly have to "wait it out" for about 45minutes before the radiators come back on.
I'm hoping someone can explain what this is for? I would guess it's possibly some rudimentary kill switch - if it's too hot then the radiators probably aren't needed. As I'm looking at replacing the ancient radiators in the house with ones that are more centered around per-room temperature is it worth having this device removed - if it is a central kill switch that is?
2) This is something in another area of the basement, near where we have the shower and sauna:
The pipes above have a fan in that go all the way up to our fireplace in the lounge, that has some sort of airing system to blow out hot air (heated by the fireplace).
This box is however a mystery, there is a temperature probe sticking out to the right, and holding it in your hand will increase the temperature on the display, however the temperature seems way off, e.g. it currently says 0C, which I know the temp in the basement hasn't gotten that low. It also switches between the temperature and "AL".
It seems to act as some kind of junction box as well as the light switch is cabled through it as well.
The box has an "uttag" on the left hand side, and another thermostat type thing near it, turning the thermostat off appears to have no effect.
The buttons on the display appear to do nothing. However earlier in the year my wife pressed the white button on the box, which caused it to start making a buzzing sound. The only way to stop it was to kill the power to the house and turn it back on again. I'm at a loss as to what this is for?
3) I believe this one is just mainly "left over" and is in the stairwell down to the basement:
I get that the box in the middle is a step down transformer from 220v down to 24v. It appears that the transfomer has two sets of cables coming out, one I believe is used for the few door bells that are placed around the house when someone knocks on the door.
The other set goes into the box/cage on the right labelled "motorvärmare", but I cannot see any remains anywhere of something used as a car heater. I would imagine that since most nowadays are plugged into the regular outlets, this kind of system became obsolete, but was never removed. Is anyone able to confirm that?
Any help on solving these mysteries would be greatly appreciated
Tack så mycket
Ben
Tricky ones you got in your first thread here!
Not standard in any way, so probably a real DIY guy in the house sometimes in the past.
1. Where is the thermostat placed inside or outside? It's loks like some kind of "master" for the heating.. but following what ? The temperature inside or outside?
2. It's probably a controller for the fans / heating system from the fireplace meant to warm up the basement.
3. It's for the engine heater no doubt, but the Bacho clock it's nice and rare and maybe a case for "tradera" for some collector of odd things
Not standard in any way, so probably a real DIY guy in the house sometimes in the past.
1. Where is the thermostat placed inside or outside? It's loks like some kind of "master" for the heating.. but following what ? The temperature inside or outside?
2. It's probably a controller for the fans / heating system from the fireplace meant to warm up the basement.
3. It's for the engine heater no doubt, but the Bacho clock it's nice and rare and maybe a case for "tradera" for some collector of odd things
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It was typical in the seventies to feed one outlet for a car heater from a timer, so that's almost certainly what it was for. In fact, growing up in the seventies I remember in the wake of the energy crisis that one of the government energy saving tips was to "put the car heaters on a timer, to start it three hours before you're leaving for work". Before that most just plug the car in when they got home, and leave it on until they took the car to work in the morning the next day.BenB skrev:
Thanks for the replies
1) This is a good question, there is a completely bare cable that comes out from it (can just about be seen in the picture), and is coiled between two cable clips and then goes into the wall.... It's usable as a ground point as well - as I can use a multimeter between one of the fuse test holes and that and get a reading. I'm doubting this would be for the temperature sensor, but is the only route I can see to the outside. So either it's that or the sensor is built into the box (or I guess there could be one that goes straight outside from the back of the box that isn't visible).
I wouldn't have thought the temperature in the basement would get up to ~20c though (which appears to be what it's set at), even in summer it feels fairly fresh down there.
The other white cable goes into a big grey box, and that is connected to the fuse box with all the fuse pairs for all the radiators, and at the other end is the red light I mentioned.
2) This would probably be the other way round then when we turn the switch by the fireplace, it turns the fan on in the basement and it pushes air out the front and side of the fireplace, and into an adjacent room. It seems like it pulls air from outside though, which seems a bit counter-productive. It's rather strange that the buttons on the display do nothing though. I would have thought they would give some sort of control as to what happens at a certain temperature. Haven't seen any manual around the house for it either.
3) That's good to hear. Something to do at some stage then. Thanks
As for the "DIY guy", yes, I believe so too, there's also a lot of things around the house that look very amateurish, especially in the main bathroom. e.g. the two cables for the radiator - from the wall and to the radiator go in the top of the connection box. And just general lack of attention to detail, e.g. sockets etc. that don't even look level to the eye.
1) This is a good question, there is a completely bare cable that comes out from it (can just about be seen in the picture), and is coiled between two cable clips and then goes into the wall.... It's usable as a ground point as well - as I can use a multimeter between one of the fuse test holes and that and get a reading. I'm doubting this would be for the temperature sensor, but is the only route I can see to the outside. So either it's that or the sensor is built into the box (or I guess there could be one that goes straight outside from the back of the box that isn't visible).
I wouldn't have thought the temperature in the basement would get up to ~20c though (which appears to be what it's set at), even in summer it feels fairly fresh down there.
The other white cable goes into a big grey box, and that is connected to the fuse box with all the fuse pairs for all the radiators, and at the other end is the red light I mentioned.
2) This would probably be the other way round then
when we turn the switch by the fireplace, it turns the fan on in the basement and it pushes air out the front and side of the fireplace, and into an adjacent room. It seems like it pulls air from outside though, which seems a bit counter-productive. It's rather strange that the buttons on the display do nothing though. I would have thought they would give some sort of control as to what happens at a certain temperature. Haven't seen any manual around the house for it either.3) That's good to hear.
Something to do at some stage then. ThanksAs for the "DIY guy", yes, I believe so too, there's also a lot of things around the house that look very amateurish, especially in the main bathroom. e.g. the two cables for the radiator - from the wall and to the radiator go in the top of the connection box. And just general lack of attention to detail, e.g. sockets etc. that don't even look level to the eye.
1. "and is coiled between two cable clips and then goes into the wall"
It's the sensor try to find the end of it.
2. Ok it's good to supply the fire with air from the basement or from outside to prevent the fire consuming heated air from the house (save money) and also prevent "kalldrag" from windows etc.
The controller can be out of control..it's a simple standard controller AL means Alarm but it doesen't men it's alarming! sometimes you can use the alarm output to control your functions with.
3.If you are worried about the level of the installations maybe you should contact a pro electrician to check your installations just to be sure...
It's the sensor try to find the end of it.
2. Ok it's good to supply the fire with air from the basement or from outside to prevent the fire consuming heated air from the house (save money) and also prevent "kalldrag" from windows etc.
The controller can be out of control..it's a simple standard controller AL means Alarm but it doesen't men it's alarming! sometimes you can use the alarm output to control your functions with.
3.If you are worried about the level of the installations maybe you should contact a pro electrician to check your installations just to be sure...