Hur kan jag stabilisera mina takstolar?

[sturnus]

Jag har dock med detta börjat fundera på om instabliteten verkligen beror på takstolarna enbart eller om det är en kombination med väggarna.

I am sure of it. I wrote about it earlier. The roof structure was stiffened by the roofing, battens and sheet metal. The walls are to blame, and the floor as well. The fact that the contractors were certified carpenters does not mean that they could not have messed it up. For me, the material is not suitable. Am I right that it is plywood? Plywood has many advantages, but one of them in this case is a disadvantage. Flexibility. Structural beams made of plywood have squares that stiffen them (look bellow). Here they are missing. What you write, that such a wall structure has proven itself many times, does not mean that it will also work here. First of all, it is a large cottage. Secondly, in this type of cottage, the posts usually run from the ground to the roof. And this changes the situation diametrically. To help you, you need to see some photos from the previous stages. And you have to be more open to this help...

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[Jens Widehammar]

Menar du att väggarna i praktiken är ett gäng stora parallellogram som taket står på?

Ett antal bilder på själva väggarna utan taket på

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[Dowser4711]

Är de grå "kryssen" enbart stålband som sitter spikade eller skruvade i ramen?

 

[Jens Widehammar]

Är de grå "kryssen" enbart stålband som sitter spikade eller skruvade i ramen?
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Skruvade stålband

 

[Jens Widehammar]

I am sure of it. I wrote about it earlier. The roof structure was stiffened by the roofing, battens and sheet metal. The walls are to blame, and the floor as well. The fact that the contractors were certified carpenters does not mean that they could not have messed it up. For me, the material is not suitable. Am I right that it is plywood? Plywood has many advantages, but one of them in this case is a disadvantage. Flexibility. Structural beams made of plywood have squares that stiffen them (look bellow). Here they are missing. What you write, that such a wall structure has proven itself many times, does not mean that it will also work here. First of all, it is a large cottage. Secondly, in this type of cottage, the posts usually run from the ground to the roof. And this changes the situation diametrically. To help you, you need to see some photos from the previous stages. And you have to be more open to this help...
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Except being more open, do you want me to send you more photos from earlier on? Like the ones below? What would you like?

 

[Jens Widehammar]

På fackspråk heter det krysskolvning .
Man sätter i ditt fall en regel mellan toppen på en takstol som fästs i nästa takstol , men i botten (underarmen)
Tvärt om på takstol nr 2 , kommer att se ut som ett kryss från sidan .
Sätter man en spik mitt i krysset så blir det ännu stadigare .
Kommer bli mycket stabilt i sidled .
Ser ut som det sitter träskivor på yttertaket 👍

Denna krysskolvning skulle i så fall sitta synliga i mitt fall..Hu många behövs? Kan man göra samma fast med stålvajer? Och kanske inte på alla takstolar utan typ mellan takstol 1 och typ 4?

 

[sturnus]

The latest photos of the TS show that this is a truly catastrophic situation. The structure does not have a continuous structure. No continuity of the foundations, caps, external load-bearing walls built of 22mm(!) plywood modules do not have any load-bearing structure! A steel strip is attached to this plywood, which was supposed to stiffen it. This is where the instability comes from. Of course, this can be remedied, but it will cost money. Unfortunately, it was supposed to be cheap, but it will be as usual. If engineers and companies were involved in this, I would pay an expert for an expert opinion and I would accuse them of acting to the detriment of the client.

 

[sturnus]

Denna krysskolvning skulle i så fall sitta synliga i mitt fall..Hu många behövs? Kan man göra samma fast med stålvajer? Och kanske inte på alla takstolar utan typ mellan takstol 1 och typ 4?

I don't think that crosspieces are necessary here. I wrote that the problem is the instability of the walls

 

[sturnus]

Except being more open, do you want me to send you more photos from earlier on? Like the ones below? What would you l

Do you have any pictures of the floor structure itself? How deep into the ground are the "plints"? How were the floor joists connected to them?

 

[Dowser4711]

Förresten, hur sitter huset fast på plintarna?

 

[sturnus]

Förresten, hur sitter huset fast på plintarna?

I guess not fixed

 

[Tomture61]

Denna krysskolvning skulle i så fall sitta synliga i mitt fall..Hu många behövs? Kan man göra samma fast med stålvajer? Och kanske inte på alla takstolar utan typ mellan takstol 1 och typ 4?

En ovanlig åtgärd att behöva staga upp takstolar i sidled .
Men stålvajer mellan några takstolar fungerar också , glöm dock inte att låsa ihop vajrar där de möts .
Takytan + vinden är starka krafter tillsammans.

 

[sturnus]

Är det någon som gjort beräkning på snölasten av takstolarna?

It is in Urugway! :-D

 

[MultiMan]

Det snöar... ibland. 😉

Det snöade vid den första FIFA-cupen 1930 som gick i Uruguay och även en gång 2018. Finns säkert fler tillfällen om man letar bättre.

Fotbollen från sagda händelse:

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[sturnus]

och även en gång 2018

Ist anomaly. And how much? One meter? There, wind pressure is more important.