I received a phone call from a relative today when they were finalizing the price for new gutters. They wanted 12,000 SEK for about 6m of gutters and 1 downspout with connection. No new hooks for the gutter or straps for the downspout, as they reused the old ones.
I spoke with the guy who did the job over the phone, and he claimed they had agreed on 1,200 SEK per meter. When questioning the high price, I was told that it is material of the highest quality (aluminum). I have been able to trace the material Trifa, a Hungarian brand, which apparently is coated aluminum. I will get comparable material prices from my frequently used supplier tomorrow for comparison, but I find it very hard to see that this job would be worth 1,200 SEK per meter. Especially since I have big doubts about the quality.
Those of you who know, should it look like this?
Image 1 downspout connection to ground pipe. Is there a missing transition and leaf separator?
Image 2 ends only bent up. Not connecting to the fascia board, leaving about a 3 cm gap.
Image 3 feels like poorly cut pipe with sharp shards sticking out, uneven. In addition, it's dented and attached to the old, non-fitting strap with drywall screws (?). Isn't the downspout also the wrong dimension, see gutter and ground pipe?
I don't know if I'm completely off track, but this feels completely wrong both in terms of price and quality?
I will meet with them tomorrow for further discussion... just wanted any input you might have...
No, that looks terrible.
No holes in the gutter, of course. They are mounted with clips. No bends, just mount an "end."
At the bottom of the downspout, usually a filter is installed.
etc. etc. etc.
The price for that material I would say is 1000 SEK. Max.
Are they caravaners from Ireland or what kind of idiots are they?
I can assure you this is not a joke. This was installed today at a relative's place and I honestly don't know how to handle them. I mostly feel like taking the crap down again…
I can attest that this is not a joke. This was installed today at a relative's place and I honestly don't know how to deal with them. I mostly feel like taking the crap down again...
Best regards,
Pär
That is so poorly done that it should be taken down and done properly.
Try pouring water in and I wouldn't be surprised if it drains the wrong way
But back to my question. Who did it? A company?
Did your relative find them, or did they come by?
Image searched on Google and only found these images (I am still a rather analog guy, so I may be wrong)
I've seen worse results from craftsmen here on BH (am one myself and everyone has a "bad" day) so I am not particularly shocked by the OP's images. However, I've never seen such a poor gutter job as this. Do you think someone who has been a member for 3 years waits to troll for that long?
If they have indeed agreed on 1200/m, that price applies even if it is unreasonable. However, it's up to the craftsman to provide some form of proof of the agreement.
But the way this job looks, it's more likely that the craftsman is liable for damages. Don't pay a penny!
It looks too shabby and isn't something you'd pay for. But it can probably work for a while, the slope should be correct if they've reused the gutter brackets and it was correct before, ending a few cm from the fascia board is normal to protect it from moisture damage, the upward bend I haven't seen before but it should work and you avoid a seam there which can leak, the seam in the downspout looks terrible and uncomfortable with sharp edges but it shouldn't leak much there since the water flows vertically (though some might creep out along the screws), of course, you can do without a leaf ejector but then you should preferably have some mesh at the bend and that is impractical.
I can understand if a knock-and-disappear handyman thinks it's good enough if you haven't clearly agreed on a proper installation but just "replace gutters and downspouts." But that's dodgy, of course.
