Wow, good to hear some real-world stories. I've also had an eye-opener about these loads. Glad it worked out for you in the end.Dowser4711 said:
I had a similar problem when I remodeled the kitchen on the upper floor and placed a kitchen island with a granite slab "right over" a room on the lower floor. I thought there wouldn’t be any problem as I, like you, compared the weight with a bunch of people standing there and it was evenly distributed along three beams.
After a few weeks, I started to notice that things dropped on the floor rolled towards the island. I noticed paint flakes on the floor from the ceiling which clearly bulged. My evening panic was to stamp up and then open the ceiling and insert two glulam beams. But in my case, it’s a generally poorly constructed house from the 70s, so I should’ve realized that beforehand.
However, I might have some suggestion regarding the stove.
When I moved in, I had a *gigantic* structure that was 1.2mx1.2mx1.2m of brick with a cast iron insert (And then a bit more brick on top, but that probably didn’t make a difference)
It was supported by having four sturdy L-irons installed at the bottom which then extended straight out through the wall and were embedded in the chimney outside.
In other words, it would be more or less possible to remove the floor under it without affecting anything.
However, the "chimney pipe" through the wall was a spiral pipe surrounded by a few centimeters of glass wool and then fibreboard. (Did I mention poor construction practices?) so even though it worked for many more years than anyone afterward could understand, it ended its days when the fire department knocked it down to access and extinguish the fire in the wall...
So when I finally replaced the stove two-three years ago with a new soapstone stove with a chimney through the roof, I solved it by installing joists at 30 cm centers and blocking that rests on the wall. But with the kitchen island as a reference, I don’t trust it will hold in the long run without causing any sagging, so I’ve also installed an angle iron under the beam that is "furthest out" from the wall and takes weight from the stove, then two more at ~30-degree angles towards the wall where a fourth transfers the force to the wall. (First bolted and then welded on-site) If I remember correctly, they are 40x40x4mm which is hopefully a gross overstatement, but since it’s in the ceiling of the hobby room, the "intrusion" is OK.
Small note - for properties, there is a 10-year right of complaint.
The right of complaint applies to the "first owner," whereas the structural defect insurance follows the house but has a deductible that means some faults are not worth claiming.
So it's entirely wrong of the home supplier to refer to Garbo when you are the one who ordered the house? (maybe that's why they changed their mind).
The right of complaint applies to the "first owner," whereas the structural defect insurance follows the house but has a deductible that means some faults are not worth claiming.
So it's entirely wrong of the home supplier to refer to Garbo when you are the one who ordered the house? (maybe that's why they changed their mind).