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Hej
I want to buy a Mitsubishi Qheat in our vacationhouse but I never install one.
Installation cost us a lot because we have no ROT avdrag
I think it is not difficult to fix the inside and outside parts but I need tools to connect the pipes and fill it with gas.
Maybe it is better and cheaper to hire someone instead of buying the tools and gas and do it by my self.
My questions :
Is that so ?
Or is it possible to do it by my self ?
Or does anyone know someone who can help me to do the installation ?
Mvh
Nol
I want to buy a Mitsubishi Qheat in our vacationhouse but I never install one.
Installation cost us a lot because we have no ROT avdrag
I think it is not difficult to fix the inside and outside parts but I need tools to connect the pipes and fill it with gas.
Maybe it is better and cheaper to hire someone instead of buying the tools and gas and do it by my self.
My questions :
Is that so ?
Or is it possible to do it by my self ?
Or does anyone know someone who can help me to do the installation ?
Mvh
Nol
Is it really so that pricing is so different without the ROT? Here is an example of pricing with and without root....:
http://www.luftmiljobutiken.se/sv/sverigepumpen-superscroll-9/product_details.php/products_id/63/
...additional 3000kr without ROT.
I think that the most common setup is that these heaters are sold with installation included.
I am not sure its still legal to do the gas-part of the installation yourself but here is some, maybe, useful info:
http://www.amexa.se/default.asp?product=ti-22009
http://www.luftmiljobutiken.se/sv/sverigepumpen-superscroll-9/product_details.php/products_id/63/
...additional 3000kr without ROT.
I think that the most common setup is that these heaters are sold with installation included.
I am not sure its still legal to do the gas-part of the installation yourself but here is some, maybe, useful info:
http://www.amexa.se/default.asp?product=ti-22009
I ask for a complete price of a Mitsubishi and with ROT it was ±15.000 and wothout it was ±20.000
I want to thank you very much for the information, this helps me a lot.
I am going to read and translate everything and then I am going to make a decision what I am going to do.
Again thank you
Mvh
Nol
I want to thank you very much for the information, this helps me a lot.
I am going to read and translate everything and then I am going to make a decision what I am going to do.
Again thank you
Mvh
Nol
Redigerat:
I think that the model of Your choise requires installation by a certified person (guarantee issues). A vacuum-pump is needed for the installation and I guess You don´t have one?
If You can buy one without installation You can after discussing with the installer prepare all the work that is doable without the special equipment, i.e. making the hole in the wall, mounting both the outdoor and the indoor units. This might give You a better deal.
If You can buy one without installation You can after discussing with the installer prepare all the work that is doable without the special equipment, i.e. making the hole in the wall, mounting both the outdoor and the indoor units. This might give You a better deal.
Why does it have to be a mitsubishi? It is a brand name "high end" model that is sold by installers with high margins. Get a cheap low end model that is designed for the DIY market that you can install yourself such as:
http://www.byggmax.com/se-sv/byggva...4110010/luftvarmepump-sol#Product_information
http://www.jula.se/luftvarmepump-sc-1332-3200-w-417018
Models liks theese is prefilled with gas and has a special "quick connect" that allows installation without speciall tools or pumps. Sure the low end models is not as efficient as the best models but very close and you can buy 3 or 4 of them for the same money.
http://www.byggmax.com/se-sv/byggva...4110010/luftvarmepump-sol#Product_information
http://www.jula.se/luftvarmepump-sc-1332-3200-w-417018
Models liks theese is prefilled with gas and has a special "quick connect" that allows installation without speciall tools or pumps. Sure the low end models is not as efficient as the best models but very close and you can buy 3 or 4 of them for the same money.
Hej Pelle242
Thank you for advising.
I also thought about it but maybe after explanation about my situation you can advice me better.
Our house is old and have no wall insulation. The livingroom is 9 x 5 meter and have an open kitchen which is 4 x 5 meter. In the livingroom we make a woodstove (vedkamin) but we don´t have it yet.
We have no heating and water in the house during the winter. We stay there ±3 months between begin of May untill the end of October. We like to come someday with Christmas and New Year.
The house is cold when we arrive in May and I want to start-up the luft-luft värme before we arrive so that the house is comfortable when we arrive. Now we use 3-4 electric heaters of 2000Watt for a long time what cost a lot energy and 4 is maximum otherwise the mainfuse blow-out.
They advice me to install the Q-Heat 630 which is 6,3KW for heating and have a COP of 5,33 and that cost me almost 20.000sek complete with installation. 6,3KW would be enough and with COP 5,3 it does not cost so much energy.
The one from Jula is 3,2KW with a COP of 3,23 and the one from ByggMax is 3,5KW with a COP of 3,9
Both have less COP value and I am not sure if they have enough heating capacity for the livingroom/kitchen in our situation. I have to confess that I, maybe, look to much to the COP value.
What should you do in my situation ? What can you advice me ?
Tack så mycket och gott nytt år alla
Mvh
Nol
Thank you for advising.
I also thought about it but maybe after explanation about my situation you can advice me better.
Our house is old and have no wall insulation. The livingroom is 9 x 5 meter and have an open kitchen which is 4 x 5 meter. In the livingroom we make a woodstove (vedkamin) but we don´t have it yet.
We have no heating and water in the house during the winter. We stay there ±3 months between begin of May untill the end of October. We like to come someday with Christmas and New Year.
The house is cold when we arrive in May and I want to start-up the luft-luft värme before we arrive so that the house is comfortable when we arrive. Now we use 3-4 electric heaters of 2000Watt for a long time what cost a lot energy and 4 is maximum otherwise the mainfuse blow-out.
They advice me to install the Q-Heat 630 which is 6,3KW for heating and have a COP of 5,33 and that cost me almost 20.000sek complete with installation. 6,3KW would be enough and with COP 5,3 it does not cost so much energy.
The one from Jula is 3,2KW with a COP of 3,23 and the one from ByggMax is 3,5KW with a COP of 3,9
Both have less COP value and I am not sure if they have enough heating capacity for the livingroom/kitchen in our situation. I have to confess that I, maybe, look to much to the COP value.
What should you do in my situation ? What can you advice me ?
Tack så mycket och gott nytt år alla
Mvh
Nol
Don't buy these sheap machines from Jula or Byggmax, they are really crap when it counts. When the temperature falls way below zero the output from these heaters are very low, you gonna freeze. Mitsubishi makes really good heaters that you will be very pleased with in the long run. So my advice is buy an Q-Heat 630 and you will be satisfied.
I understand that these machines are not in the same rate as the Q-heat but that is also for the price and I can install it by my self.
I am not saying that I am going to buy one of these but I consider that because it is a summer vacationhouse.
Confirm the documentation both works from -15° and they are good for ±100m2 which should be enough for our livingroom with open kitchen which is total 65m2
Negative point is that the walls have no insulation !!
Positive point is that I am not there in wintertime but only between May until October. !!
Can someone confirm that they are enough to heat-up the livingroom with open-kitchen ?
And does they spare me money instead of using 3-4 electric heaters from 2Kw each ?
The Jula have 2 years warranty but does anyone know the warranty of the Byggmax machine ?
Mvh
Nol
I am not saying that I am going to buy one of these but I consider that because it is a summer vacationhouse.
Confirm the documentation both works from -15° and they are good for ±100m2 which should be enough for our livingroom with open kitchen which is total 65m2
Negative point is that the walls have no insulation !!
Positive point is that I am not there in wintertime but only between May until October. !!
Can someone confirm that they are enough to heat-up the livingroom with open-kitchen ?
And does they spare me money instead of using 3-4 electric heaters from 2Kw each ?
The Jula have 2 years warranty but does anyone know the warranty of the Byggmax machine ?
Mvh
Nol
I would recommend this forum for this kind of questions tough
http://www.varmepumpsforum.com/
if it was me i would look at the DYI kits or one of the cheaper models.
http://www.varmepumpsforum.com/
if it was me i would look at the DYI kits or one of the cheaper models.