As I wrote, There is no protection against fire because the back wall does not have a fireproof partition. Also, the left one does not have it because the plate is 9EH, i.e. not fireproof!. It should be properly installed from the inside to protect the structure of the wall. Once the posts are burned through, the plaster won't hold the wall, right? In the case of internal plaster installation, the fire has difficult access to the wall structure and the neighbor will manage to get his Bentley out of his garageA Alex Holmén skrev:
Gips plate description:
Skivan används som vindskyddsskiva i konstruktioner där man vill undvika luftströmningar som nedsätter värmeisoleringsförmågan i konstruktionen. Fungerar även som lufttäthetsskikt där man vill undvika genomblåsning av väggen samt som skyddsskiva mot nederbörd under byggtiden. Har även en avstyvande funktion för ytterväggskonstruktioner. Den har betydligt mindre vattenupptagning än tidigare utegipsskivor vilket bl a minimerar risken för kartongsläpp och missfärgning av kartong.
Teoretisk väderexponering max 1 månad.
Skivan har raka, kartongklädda långkanter samt raka, skurna kortkanter.
Nu har vi lagar och förordningar i Sverige att följa. Dessa kräver gips för brandklassning mellan byggnader. Så lägg ner det där snacket om att det är onödigt. Helt oavsett om du har rätt eller inte, så spelar det ingen roll. TS var tvungen att sätta gips.S sturnus skrev:
I can see your point. But you have to take that with the building permit officer. They set the rules.S sturnus skrev:
It's not about to fireproof. it's about delaying.
We al know, a car on fire in a carport. It's need a lot to stop the fire from hit the other houses.
It's common to use gips in fire delaying. double gips board should delaying the fire for 30min. wood it's not catches fire that easy.
It's common to build a fire delaying wall with gips and wood and its classified to delay fire for 30min. This is with a common 12mm gips.
It's al about delaying fire.
On gips board it's only the thin paper that could burn. If take that paper and put right under a wood board. Nothing hapend. It takes a lot more
Redigerat:
Bananskalare skrev:
I wrote clearly:A AG A skrev:
And:S sturnus skrev:
This cover protects only the outer panel! If a car is on fire in the garage, the interior panels and structural elements are not protected. Do you still think it does its job? This reflects the dilettante of the carpenters, which is also reflected in the stability of the structureS sturnus skrev:
Redigerat:
I think I wasn't clear. This delay is not to save the building. It's to save the soul inside the nearby building. The panel inside and the gips. Should be enough to delay the fire.S sturnus skrev:
Ofcourse a car on fire it's not a dream. but I think the wall will do they job, to delay the fire. Maybe not 30min. But much better then nothing..
Why? To prevent all house from fire?S sturnus skrev:
Then all apartment buildings in Sweden are poorly built. They should have concrete exterior walls and a lightweight interior structure.
Show me that country that builds all there house in concrete? How should you build a carport like TS?
But did you read something of wat I wrote?
It's only there to delay.
Complete nonsense! I already wrote it clearly. The purpose of fire barriers is to limit the spread of fire and protect the structure of the building to delay its collapse in order to allow the evacuation of people in a burning building. Not from the neighbors! In your opinion, the boards should be under the outer panels. congratulations...
In the case of TS there should be no such requirement because it is not a building but a shed! A building is a building structure permanently attached to the ground, having foundations, separated from the space by means of building partitions.
You write that this solution will delay the spread of fire. I'll say it again: BAD! How if it's an open shed where flames and sparks will be carried by the wind? Where the explosion of the fuel tank will spread burning fuel around the area.
I read what you wrote, but I have the impression that you do not read what you say, or worse, you do not understand them.
I Ingvar 58 skrev:
Detta e ju en av konsekvenserna av att många har tillgång till tex Scetchup och därmed kan göra bilder som ser ”proffsiga” ut. En okunnig beställare och en okunnig utförare har ett snyggt dokument som båda tror funkar att jobba utifrån. Tex i en prissättning som ju bara blir en gissning. Utföraren tror bygga e ”friitt valt arbete” och tuggar på, medans beställaren tror att det skall lösa sig till slut….A Alex Holmén skrev:
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Att du fått startbrsked på det underlaget är helt orimligt. Stadsbyggnadskontoret har schabblat rejält om de släppt igenom detta. Har dem verkligen gjort det?
I cant change the rules. The rules says carport is a building.S sturnus skrev:
You have a point when it. comes to burning cars.
The fun part are that the fire protection could be placed in the other building. Fireprotection between buildings doesn't care who owns the buildings.
A shed is not a building, it's a building structure. The building, as I wrote earlier, has partitions (walls) that separate it from space. In other words, it has a volume.
In this specific case, someone wanted to "flash" intellect and came up with nonsense.
If my neighbor parks behind the fence next to my house, I'm supposed to order him to cover the car body with a double layer of gypsum boards. But to make it "prettier" it's only from one side!
In this specific case, someone wanted to "flash" intellect and came up with nonsense.
If my neighbor parks behind the fence next to my house, I'm supposed to order him to cover the car body with a double layer of gypsum boards. But to make it "prettier" it's only from one side!
Redigerat:
You can park your car close to your house, But if you build a carport you must put a wall...S sturnus skrev:A shed is not a building, it's a building structure. The building, as I wrote earlier, has partitions (walls) that separate it from space. In other words, it has a volume.
In this specific case, someone wanted to "flash" intellect and came up with nonsense.
If my neighbor parks behind the fence next to my house, I'm supposed to order him to cover the car body with a double layer of gypsum boards. But to make it "prettier" it's only from one side!
You just need to make on wall ei.30 the rules are quite funny some times.
Jag kommer inte ihåg exakt allt jag skickade in för bygglovet. Kommer ihåg att jag skickade dessa ritningar som ritades vid husbygget och fick beskriva vid ansökningen (gjordes på kommunens hemsida) vad för material vi skulle använda. Fick en grym handläggare som förklarade och hjälpte till med ansökanJ Janne Nilsson skrev:
