Scammed on gutter job?

[Borgen2021]

This is definitely about so-called Irish pavers who are highly professional in their "craft," which is fraud, not metalwork. The reason they've done any work at all is that it's part of the setup.

Exactly
Almost impressive that even today, people let those who knock on the door rummage around a house (unless the victim is very old, demented, etc.)

 

[Mårten Levin]

Call a vocational school in sheet metalwork and ask one of the teachers to come out and inspect the job, then dispute the job. With that inspection, you can calmly go to court and you don't need a lawyer for small claims, just tell them what happened and use the teacher as a witness.

 

[Grizzlybjörnen123]

Here it is 18 meters, gutter, lots of brackets cc60 and ends.
2 downpipes with bends and outlets at the bottom with a sleeve at the very bottom. Aluminum from Lindab.
Material for about 6000kr done by myself with the help of google, videos, and mason's line.

Took 1-3 days

Don't you know how long it took to set up 18 m gutter? Were you drunk since you assume it took 1-3 days.

 

[javlaandersson]

If no one has mentioned it already... you're pretty much being fooled...
The whole installation looks like crap
Who wants colorful advertising colors on the gutter?

Get a couple of other quotes so you have more leverage

 

[Gunlun]

Hello!!

I can confirm that this is not a joke. This was installed today at a relative's place, and I actually don't know how to handle them. I mostly feel like taking down the crap again…

Best regards,

Pär

This doesn't feel good, unfortunately, your relative is probably conned by a bunch of amateurs. My partner would have done the job better, and she's a chef.

 

[Plåtis22]

My uncle is an inspector, I sent your pictures to him. He said it was the worst he’s seen. Firstly, you’re not supposed to use stuvbitar, they rust easily and are positioned too low against gravel, there should be space for the silkopp and you can see at the bottom of the downpipe that it should be turned upwards. You shouldn’t screw in these because rust will form soon, so he wonders WHAT they used to fasten the gutter, what the heck he says. 12000kr is definitely not worth it. THREATEN THAT YOU WILL BRING AN INSPECTOR THERE BEFORE YOU PAY, call the home insurance company and ask what you can do. He says it is forbidden to have a gap between the gutter and the timber. Your friend has been so misled. If they were to sell the house, this would never be approved.

Your so-called inspector should take a sheet metal course, since an aluminum gutter contracts and expands at different temperatures, there will be a crack against the fascia board in winter...

 

[Sebbe_art]

I like this fold

 

[es.suhaggyB]

Here it is 18 meters, gutter, lots of brackets cc60 and ends.
2 downspouts with bends and outlets at the bottom with a sleeve at the very bottom. Aluminum from Lindab.
Materials for about 6000 SEK done by myself with the help of Google, videos, and builder's cord.

Took 1-3 days

Looks nice but if we're being picky, it seems like the downspouts are mounted the wrong way.

 

[Bridan]

Hello forum!!

I received a phone call from a relative today, as they were about to finalize the price for new gutters. They quoted 12,000 kr for about 6 meters of gutters and 1 downpipe with connection. No new hooks for the gutter or straps for the downpipe, the old ones were reused.

I spoke with the guy who did the job on the phone, and he claims that they agreed on 1200 kr per meter, and when questioning the high price, I was told that it's material of the highest quality (aluminum). I've been able to track the material to Trifa, a Hungarian brand, it seems to be coated aluminum. I'm supposed to get equivalent material prices from my frequently used supplier tomorrow for comparison, but I find it very hard to see that this job would be worth 1200 kr per meter. Especially since I have big questions about the quality.

For those of you who know, is it supposed to look like this?

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Image 1: Downpipe connection to ground pipe. Missing transition and leaf separator?

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Image 2: Ends only bent up. Does not connect against the fascia board, leaving about a 3 cm gap.

[image]

Image 3: Appears to be sloppily cut pipe with sharp splinters protruding, uneven. Additionally, it's dented and attached to the old non-fitting strap with drywall screw (?). Isn't the downpipe also the wrong dimension, see gutter and ground pipe.

I don't know if I'm totally off track here, but this feels completely wrong both in terms of price and quality?

I'm meeting with them tomorrow for further discussion… just wanted any input you might have to offer…

Hello!
Have the asphalt supplies run out for the companies that drive around fixing asphalt on both lawns and who knows what when the homeowner is away? So these guys drive around fixing gutters and downpipes instead?

 

[Bananskalare]

police report? what should be reported to the police?
Unfortunately, bad jobs are not illegal. High prices are not illegal either.
These issues are civil matters, not for the police.
Have there been any threats? Then you can report the threat. But if you don't know the person's name or where they live, it can be difficult for the police.

 

[elpaco]

Today's first-world problem: users on ByggaHus who insist on replying to the original post without reading the existing thread.

 

[cpalm]

Have the companies that go around fixing asphalt on both lawns and God knows what else when the homeowner is away run out of asphalt?

They have probably long had several different strings to their bow - roofing and stone paving and such, but asphalt paving is and will remain what they are known for.

 

[Mickenr1]

Hello forum!!

got a call from a relative today, when they were about to finalize the price for new gutters. They were asking 12,000 SEK for about 6m of gutters and 1 downpipe with connection. No new hooks for the gutter or fastenings for the downpipe as the old ones were reused.

spoke with the guy who did the job on the phone and he claims they agreed on 1,200 SEK per meter, and when questioning the high price, I was told it’s material of the highest quality (aluminum). I managed to trace the material Trifa, a Hungarian brand, apparently coated aluminum. I'll get comparable material prices from my frequently used supplier tomorrow for comparison but I find it very hard to see how this job could be worth 1,200 SEK per meter. Especially as I have significant doubts about the quality.

For those in the know, is this how it's supposed to look?

[image]
Picture 1 downpipe connection to ground pipe. Missing transition and leaf separator?

[image]

picture 2 ends only bent up. Does not connect to fascia board leaving about a 3 cm gap.

[image]

picture 3 appears to be sloppily cut pipe with razor-sharp chips sticking out, is uneven. Additionally, it is dented and attached to the old, non-fitting fastener with plaster screws (?). Isn't the downpipe also of incorrect dimension, see gutter and ground pipe.


I don't know if I'm completely off track but this feels completely wrong both in terms of price and quality?

meeting them tomorrow for further discussion…just wanted any input you might have…

They probably are the worst I have seen "do not pay a penny for this botch job"

Hello forum!!

got a call from a relative today, when they were about to finalize the price for new gutters. They were asking 12,000 SEK for about 6m of gutters and 1 downpipe with connection. No new hooks for the gutter or fastenings for the downpipe as the old ones were reused.

spoke with the guy who did the job on the phone and he claims they agreed on 1,200 SEK per meter, and when questioning the high price, I was told it’s material of the highest quality (aluminum). I managed to trace the material Trifa, a Hungarian brand, apparently coated aluminum. I'll get comparable material prices from my frequently used supplier tomorrow for comparison but I find it very hard to see how this job could be worth 1,200 SEK per meter. Especially as I have significant doubts about the quality.

For those in the know, is this how it's supposed to look?

[image]
Picture 1 downpipe connection to ground pipe. Missing transition and leaf separator?

[image]

picture 2 ends only bent up. Does not connect to fascia board leaving about a 3 cm gap.

[image]

picture 3 appears to be sloppily cut pipe with razor-sharp chips sticking out, is uneven. Additionally, it is dented and attached to the old, non-fitting fastener with plaster screws (?). Isn't the downpipe also of incorrect dimension, see gutter and ground pipe.


I don't know if I'm completely off track but this feels completely wrong both in terms of price and quality?

meeting them tomorrow for further discussion…just wanted any input

 

[matsgran]

Hello forum!!

Got a phone call from a relative today, when they were about to finalize the price for new gutters. They were going to charge 12,000 SEK for about 6m of gutters and 1 downpipe with a connection. No new hooks for the gutter or brackets for the downpipe as the old ones were reused.

I spoke with the guy who did the job on the phone and he claimed they agreed on 1,200 SEK per meter, and when questioning the high price, I was told it is of the highest quality material (aluminum). I have been able to trace the material Trifa, a Hungarian brand, it seems to be coated aluminum. I will get corresponding material prices from my frequently used supplier tomorrow for comparison but I find it very hard to believe that this job would be worth 1,200 SEK per meter. Especially as I have big question marks about the quality.

Those who know, is it supposed to look like this?

[image]
Image 1 downpipe connection to ground pipe. Missing transition and leaf separator?

[image]

Image 2 ends only bent up. Does not connect to the fascia board and there is about a 3 cm gap.

[image]

Image 3 feels like sloppily cut pipe with sharp splinters sticking out, uneven. In addition it is dented and attached to the old non-fitting bracket with drywall screw (?). Isn't the downpipe in the wrong dimension, see gutter and ground pipe.


I don't know if I'm completely off track but this feels all wrong both in terms of price and quality?

I'm meeting them tomorrow for further discussion... just wanted any thoughts you might have to offer…

That is unfinished work and should not be paid for, as compensation to your relative is more appropriate. Report it to ARN immediately and pay nothing!

 

[Bananskalare]

Today's first-world problem: users on ByggaHus who insist on replying to the OP's initial post without reading the existing thread.

no today's first-world problem is when you can't log in to byggahus