I like to calculateHaagbard said:When I sawed in '99, I paid 11,000 SEK for 170 logs, felled them myself, sold firewood and slabs for 3,700 SEK = 7,300 SEK
Transport out of the forest = "exchange of work"
Transport to the sawmill, 3 truckloads without trailer = 1,500 SEK
Help at the sawmill = 500 SEK
Sawing = 6,462 SEK
Home transport, 5 tractor loads = Diesel cost
Everything except the actual sawing was probably "off the books" :
This gave "enormous" amounts of timber, almost too much...
A tip: Coffee, beer, and luxurious sandwiches keep the sawyer in a good mood... a satisfied and happy sawyer produces good timber
3 stacks on a timber truck = 40-45m3fub timber
45m3/170 = average volume 264 liters/log, relatively thick timber.
With a sawing yield of 45%, you should have produced approximately 20m3 of sawn timber.
Buying that quantity at the sawmill would have cost about 30,000 + VAT
Seems to be quite a good deal
I decided already in the forest what would become rafters, joists, studs, and paneling to minimize waste.David said:
I also sawed a lot of "special" things, such as a lot of "wedge-sawn" spruce paneling for the house and wedge-sawn floor planks 41 mm thick for the entire upstairs of the house... up to 350 mm wide. I also sawed a lot of birch 41, 50, and 60 mm thick for two smaller floors and steps and stringers in a future staircase.
Something one rarely thinks about is sawing some long pine boards of really good quality for bargeboards and waterboards, as well as really long and wide boards for corners.
The year after, I sawed even more peculiar "assortments," then I sawed 2"10 (~50*250) 6400 mm long to use in the joists for the garage's upper floor without needing to splice, and a lot of carpentry wood of Oak, Maple, Hazel, Larch, Elm, and Birch.
Since I was myself the helper by the sawmill, one would inform the sawyer for every log rolled in what one wanted from it, usually one or two fingers = 1 or 2 inches.
That might be quite accurate, at least it wasn't under 20 m3........a lot was of normal maximum length (56 dm), and many boards and floor planks were sawn tapered according to the shape of the log, meaning a really good yield percentage-wise since all pieces were evenly thick, and I hauled it home in 5 trips with a forest trailer after the tractor.Ubbe said:I like calculating
3 piles on a logging truck = 40-45m3fub timber
45m3/170 = average volume 264 liters/log, meaning relatively thick timber.
With a sawmill yield of 45%, you should have gotten about 20m3 of sawn wood.
Buying that amount at the sawmill would have cost approximately 30,000 + VAT
Seems like a pretty good deal
Edit: Considering how much the tapered sawn boards, floor planks, and birch planks in various thicknesses would have cost to buy, I'm convinced it was a good "deal."
Yesterday and today, I went looking for fallen trees to buy cheaply after the storm, but unfortunately, it seems there was too little wind here >
If you've cut wedge-shaped it's probably likely that you reached a yield of at least 50%Haagbard said:That might be quite accurate, at least it wasn't under 20 m3........much of it was of normal maximum length (56 dm), plus a lot of panel and floor planks were cut wedge-shaped according to the log's form, so percentage-wise it was a really good yield since all the slabs were evenly thick, and I hauled it home in 5 trips with a logging trailer behind a tractor
Edit: Considering how much all those wedge-cut panel boards and floor planks as well as birch planks of various thicknesses would have cost to buy, I'm convinced it was a good "deal"
Yesterday and today I've been out looking for windfalls to buy cheaply after the storm, but unfortunately, it seems to have blown too little here >
Do you have any idea about how much of your own time it "cost" you to produce this lumber?
What I'm getting at is whether the time spent corresponds to the reduced cost.
I assume more than a few of us find it hard to make time for everything we want to do
I haven't the faintest idea, the logging was very advanced because it was a strip between a summer cottage and a clear-cut area, the owner absolutely did not want clear-cutting close to the house, so the goal was to save as much of the smaller stuff as possible and not destroy all the smaller trees and bushes... had to fell a few trees and then drive them out, only to immediately fell more trees in the same gaps...Ubbe said:
It's largely about interest, I find logging very fun and it's also really great exercise (going to the gym is not really my thing). If you're going to design and build a garage yourself, logging kind of comes with the "package" so to speak
I don't doubt it was a good deal, just think about how much 75 m2 of 41 mm thick wedge-sawn flooring would cost.
Here is the result, aside from the roof boards and tongue-and-groove timber for the floor, everything was sawn independently, even the doors and windows.
I have also insulated and clad almost half of the residential house, and framed and insulated the roof with 19 cm.
http://www.byggahus.se/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=bvard;action=display;num=1106118324Ubbe said:I like to calculate
3 piles on a timber truck = 40-45m3fub timber
45m3/170 = average volume 264 liters/log, i.e., relatively coarse timber.
With a saw yield of 45%, you should have produced about 20m3 of sawn wood.
Buying that amount at the sawmill would have cost about 30,000 + VAT
Seems like quite a good deal
There came the price for quarter sawn flooring, so the floors I laid alone would cost ~30,000 SEK to buy!
For heaven's sake, go out and buy windfalls, a golden opportunity to build cheaply with self-sawn timber.....here barely a single tree was blown down