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Your worst example of runaway building material prices
Have there been fewer jobs then? I think everyone is still complaining about how hard it is to find craftsmen who can take on jobs because they are already so busy.Ö öringen said:
The risk is that sawmills and building markets see that "well look, people are indeed willing to pay this much after all," and continue with the higher prices.
No, I have no idea, that's why I asked if it has affected the industry.B b8q said:Has there been fewer jobs then? I think everyone still complains that it's so difficult to find tradespeople who can take on jobs because they are already so busy. The risk is that sawmills and building markets see that "well, look, people are indeed willing to pay this much after all," and they continue with the higher prices.
Of course there hasn't. All the skilled and reputable ones are still fully booked hereB b8q said:Has there been a decrease in jobs then? I still hear everyone complaining about how hard it is to get hold of tradespeople to take on jobs because they're already so busy. The risk is that sawmills and building markets see that "well, look, people are indeed willing to pay this much after all," and they continue with the higher prices.
It works until the shelves at the lumber dealers are full. It's a market economy, as long as they don't form cartels, they can't keep prices up even if they want to. There are bankruptcies in the industry.B b8q said:Has there been fewer jobs then? I think everyone still complains that it is so difficult to find craftsmen who can take on jobs because they are already so busy. The risk is that sawmills and building markets see that "well look, people are indeed willing to pay this much after all," that they continue with the higher prices.
Now you're thinking short-term! Someone has to pay for all these increases, and it won't be the construction companies, but us private individuals. A villa that cost 3.5 million is soon up to 5. All major infrastructure projects are paid with taxes. Likewise, schools and healthcare facilities. The building trade doesn't care about the private market. What private individuals buy is a drop in the ocean. There will be some bankruptcies in the industry when they've calculated tightly on fixed-price projects, you can be sure of that. This is almost on par with the Cement crisis, but do we see anything in the newspapers about it? The worst part is that forest owners and sawmills don't get paid better; it's the middlemen who profit. Today, I emailed a high-ranking person in the industry, and the response I got was that we live in a market economy. Prices in the USA are going down but are increasing here. Maybe it's time for a thorough check on cartel formations in the supply chain.
Oh yes, the sawmills are making big money now. There are no shady middlemen taking the profit.
Instead of investing in cryptocurrency, maybe it would be a tip to invest in building materialsS Stuff said:I wonder the same. Getting delivery of a garage kit in a few weeks. The original plan was to speed up in October and manage to get insulation, OSB, and drywall in place before winter. Now it’s discouraging when you see the prices of OSB, so considering just getting it weather-tight and then waiting until next year to insulate. I could perhaps insulate and put up plastic and then take a break. Does anyone have any insight into how the prices of insulation have developed? I haven't monitored the prices so closely
Insulation 95mm for about 45 SEK/m2 and 45mm for about 25 SEK/m2
https://www.k-rauta.se/produkt/isolering-isover-uni-skiva-35-95x560x1160mm-65m/7392979158411
https://www.k-rauta.se/produkt/isolering-isover-uni-skiva-35-45x560x1160mm-1299m/7392979158374
How are these prices compared to how they were before the pandemic? Have they also surged similarly to timber, or is this more normal?
https://www.k-rauta.se/produkt/isolering-isover-uni-skiva-35-95x560x1160mm-65m/7392979158411
https://www.k-rauta.se/produkt/isolering-isover-uni-skiva-35-45x560x1160mm-1299m/7392979158374
How are these prices compared to how they were before the pandemic? Have they also surged similarly to timber, or is this more normal?
S Stuff said:

Seems to have been 23kr/m2 for the 45mm board at least since October 20, feels like pretty normal prices.