Be glad that the staircase's weaknesses revealed themselves when you "only" dropped a dumbbell.
I slipped and broke a little toe myself.
Are those screw holes one sees in the middle of the fracture surface?
Take the opportunity to reinforce the other steps while you're at it.
 
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If you completely break off the step and then drill and reinforce it before gluing, can you do that with wood?
 
Moreover, like adding insult to injury, the side piece of the wagon is bevelled; significantly...

Chamfered edge of a wooden beam with a red circle highlighting the bevel.
 
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M Mikedigitize said:
Additionally, to make matters worse, the stringer is beveled; significantly...

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You get that shape if you make the stringer from a board that is too narrow. Then reinforcing that board with steel for a thousand kronor raises further questions about material choices and how well thought out the solutions are. To me, it suggests a "learning by doing" build, with various afterthought constructions.
 
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M Mikedigitize said:
Furthermore, to add insult to injury, the stringer is beveled; significantly...

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According to his own statement, the beveling was done by TS to avoid hitting his toes on the stringer when walking up the stairs.

Rounded corner on a stair stringer to prevent toe injury, highlighted in red.
What the toes are doing there, they should be on top of the step, not underneath :thinking:
 
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M Mikedigitize said:
Furthermore, to add insult to injury, the frame is beveled; significantly...

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Why do you think so? Well, you would know if you bothered to read the thread before blurting out the first thought. So you have to find the answer yourself :)
 
I don't mind if someone says, this is my first stair build, I lack/lacked experience/knowledge and it didn't turn out that great and shows a bit of humility when discussing what could have been done better. But making up things like you would stub your toes on the stringer is something anyone can see through, that's nonsense. Either the stringer is made of a narrower timber or you're making up that you cut the corners? Having cross-grain in the direction of the stairs and then screwing straight through, possibly without pre-drilling, already creates cracks in the wood and thus the step is already significantly weakened. You can also see that it has cracked through both screw holes. The steps are also unnecessarily thin, etc., etc. But you seem more interested in coming up with various excuses instead of learning something new?
 
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But you seem more interested in coming up with various excuses instead of learning something new?
I'm having a bit of trouble understanding the point of this thread since TS already seems to be an expert on everything.
 
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I'm pretty darn tired of all the self-righteous, self-appointed experts who simply can't resist feeding further into a thread that originally was a simple question about glue. As soon as they saw a picture of a staircase, it was like flies drawn to a piece of dirt, and from several of you, I now know just how incompetent a builder I am and have made all the mistakes in the book. It has to be pointed out four hundred and fifty times, and if I express a wish that the thread should focus on what I asked about since I and everyone else have greatly enjoyed using the staircase for 15 years and NOTHING is faltering in the construction, it's not enough because it should withstand a massive steel lump of 10kg from 3 meters high, which I've been told it would if I had all their knowledge, and I'm not supposed to object to their bombardment here because others risk killing themselves if they build a staircase like mine. I'm surprised at how rigid you are and find it imperative to spew your venom because you see something you don't think works, and I've noticed that it's not enough to assure that everything is completely stable because apparently, I can't judge that myself, and if the holy books have said something I've broken, I'm an apostate. BIG mistake to even show a picture, I realize, and big mistake to think that most on the forum can read and reflect outside their own boxes.

I recommend to all of you to start your own thread that exposes everyone you find in all threads, and perhaps call it 'Build Idiots'. THEN all the self-righteous can talk to each other and give the emotional support they seem to need. I'm not dumber than to understand that one can make an objection and want to strengthen the knowledge base as someone said, but one can also respect that someone who has actually worked with construction, renovation over several years and probably many more than many who have over-read on forums actually has judgment and can after 15 years conclude that an idea held up and is very satisfied with it. That's probably what everyone is annoyed about, and the analogy with the bumblebee that actually could fly is completely relevant, and in this case, there are many, many here who want to tell us that a bumblebee actually can't do that.

For those who want to build a staircase like mine, I can say that it works excellently with overhangs like mine, that one tries to increase it to be able to walk up a relatively straight ascending staircase without hitting the toes, that I've made certain reinforcements that one can assess if they want to try or not, and that the staircase lasts at least 15 years without showing the slightest sign of risking broken limbs and fatalities. However, it doesn't withstand a massive hit that would have crushed many tender toes, nor was that in my requirements when building it that it should. We might imagine that a supposedly correctly built and delivered staircase here comes with information: You don't need to be careful with heavy massive objects falling from a great height because your staircase will handle it. If the nose of your overhang breaks, you get your money back. I grossly neglected that point and now have to pay for it and must repair the stairs. And if that's not possible, I'll replace the step. Which I'm also apparently an idiot for not doing right away (the reason is also in the thread that you can look up yourself) when I wanted to test if a glue would hold and even though I've said it several times, I have to hear it again just because people can't resist joining the 'experts', receiving likes, and hence overload the thread to the extent that no one except the hecklers themselves can strengthen each other with yet another insulting comment about TS (I'm TS here) and his lack of understanding and unwillingness to listen to them.

But... I have a damn nice and good staircase and dared to try something of my own and got it to work perfectly. In all the mess above, there are at least one or two sensible and wise people who actually contribute knowledge about the best way to glue a step, and they should be thanked a lot and act like perfectly normal individuals in a thread. Those who add other things about staircases got to do so, but in the next stage they don't trust what they hear and just keep feeding on and feeding on and feeding on and... I'm leaving this thread to its fate and logging out. I will never show a picture of something I've made to provide more input to the question again. Shitstorm is just the beginning... Goodbye and good day I say and enjoy the garden of the unrenovated 1920s house I once bought and worked on for 20 years and raised the value from 390 Tkr to 3.5 Mil. I'm quite satisfied anyway and can take most of the crap but can't stand seeing post after post talking in circles with each other and in connection with that telling each other what an idiot has created this thread. I'm satisfied. The staircase is nice and good. You can build one the same way because it has passed the test of holding for a full-grown man for 15 years, even though, as someone said, it's 'medieval empiricism' to draw conclusions from that. I should realize that my perception has been 'wrong' and I should tear down the staircase and build an uglier one.

Hereby, I conclude my engagement here because there's nothing new under the sun on this subject. Sad to note that a regular building forum can take on the worst Twitter storm, but that's probably another matter.

Do not write any more responses directed at me because I'm leaving and won't be reading. If you want to continue talking, I suggest, as mentioned, your own thread. My patience capital actually suffices, and I have full trust in my judgment. I've solved loads with its help :D
 
The dramatic exit becomes less effective if done multiple times in the same thread.
 
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The dramatic exit becomes less effective if done multiple times in the same thread.
And we can see the trolls are alive. Didn't even have time to log out before an ugly mug showed up... :D
 
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If you ask what the strongest glue is and several people say it's a dumb idea, maybe you should reconsider instead of being so damn stubborn? The wheel has already been invented and there are probably construction courses you can take to learn more. I studied construction in high school over 20 years ago, back then we drew on paper and calculated forces with a calculator. If you do it today with a computer, hopefully the result is correct, but you don’t learn as much. Likely your own projects only affect you, but in the worst-case scenario, someone else. This is a slightly harsher current example: https://tv.aftonbladet.se/video/356732/haer-rasar-bron-foer-andra-gangen
 
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Has anything been revealed about how thick the steps are?

Besides, it seems that the holes are the weak point, I would have taken the opportunity to redo all the steps, so it won't happen again...
 
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Great job to everyone who has dedicated numerous pages of the thread to lecturing the OP. Both in terms of pathetic knowledge when it comes to building stairs and the way of handling criticism. The fact that the thread is about gluing a cracked board is, of course, not relevant.

I think both the OP and others following the thread might think twice before asking for advice here again.
 
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