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I think I'll manage to complete the decoupling in 1-2 weeks. Then I'll use 6 stamps and a rule at 45x220.

Thanks
 
I've tried to save a bit with the phone (so a little parenthesis for missing a zero), but I would guess you could maybe go down to an IPE240 if you're really bold. This assumes that:
* The beam is properly braced laterally.
* You can allow the beam to bend down 10mm under its own weight during installation. You can compensate for this before setting the section.
* No snow on the roof during installation.
* You have a 20mm allowance above the frame.

However, the deflection from snow might become visible. Deflection greater than L/300 usually starts to become noticeable. Total deflection here about L/250.

If you choose IPE270, I would also say that the deflection is manageable.

What do you think, justus?
 
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Ahhh would be a success. Not so much for the height as for the width......

But soon Justus will probably come and ruin the party

However, an IPE 270 or 300 would also be a success, giving me a few extra cm.
 
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I tried to do some rough calculations with the phone (so a small parenthesis for missing a zero) but I would think you could possibly go down to an IPE240 if you're really bold.
This assumes that:
*The beam is properly braced laterally.
*If you can allow the beam to bend down 10mm from its own weight during installation. You can build this away before setting the unit.
*No snow on the roof during installation.
*That you have a 20mm allowance above the frame.

However, the deflection due to snow may become noticeable. Deflection greater than L/300 typically starts to show. Total deflection here is about L/250.

If you choose IPE270, I would also say that the deflection works.


What do you think justus?
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D Derbyboy said:
Ahhh would be a success. Not so much for the height as for the width......

But soon Justus will probably come and spoil the party.

However, an IPE 270 or 300 would also be a success, giving me a few extra cm.
No, I rather think he will enhance the party:D
 
Depending on how you attach the frame at the top, you may need to be a bit creative so that any attachment can allow for some vertical movement.
 
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Exciting :)

I made some adjustments to my Word sketch above according to your instructions. I may have missed something.

With the existing foundation and a support of 145mm, the following wall construction would be possible.

Continuing calculations on an IPE 330 until Justus wakes up :)

If I can have an IPE 300, then I can have 70mm insulation instead of 45mm.

If I can have IPE 270, then I can also get a narrower wall (takes up less space in the room).
Graph paper with a hand-drawn wall construction sketch showing insulation layers and IPE beam options, with a pen and eraser above it.
 
Actually, I arrived at HEA 260 just to keep the deflection at a very low level (about L/450). Then I translated the result into an IPE and ended up with a slightly higher moment of inertia and IPE 330. Clearly, if one creates a margin (spatially and visually) for a slightly larger deflection, I think an IPE 270 can work.
 
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What do you mean by a greater margin for deflection? Is it the gap between the beam and the door frame?

I read that sliding doors can only be installed where there can be a maximum deflection of 10 mm.
 
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Is it the gap between the beam and the door frame?
Yes.
 
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But you seal it with some kind of cover board or something like that, right?

The property deed will soon be ready, and then I'll hire a constructor.

Do you think I can manage the thermal bridge if I put 45 mm outside the beam and 45 mm inside the beam? Insulation, I mean...
 
Answer: Yes. 45 + 45 definitely works. You only had 120 in the existing wall, right?
 
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Today's wall is in three sections, you could say:

15 cm insulation at the bottom, then window sections, and above that 10 cm insulation.

Thoughts on cladding the beam with oilboard?
 
I would probably suggest that you use a larger portion of insulation outside the beam just to keep the beam warmer. Then a few centimeters of insulation between the beam and the vapor barrier to prevent condensation.

Justus: IPE270 ended up almost exactly at 10mm for snow load?
 
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Okay, going to calculate placing 70mm outside and 21mm inside. It might result in the support being inside the foundation wall.

Do you plane the insulation then? Like "take off" from a block with 45mm insulation.
 
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