Mattias Axelsson said:
Yes, several where the cause was stated to be asbestos. We also did continuous health checks due to working with decontamination and primarily asbestos.
What does that have to do with the TS question? Do you see any signs of asbestos there and in what form and part? I don't understand why everyone thinks a CWS/HW pipe in a residential building would be insulated at all with asbestos. No temperature requirements, etc., that were often a factor, and modernity is in place when machine/hair felt is replaced with MU. What could most irritate the airways there is possibly diatomaceous earth mass, magnesia mass, and sodium silicate on the bandages when everything is desert dry—it's not something to mess with.

Seems to be a little tracing thread visible too, is it surely identified, can be really tricky, just like the formaldehyde in the old respectable MU. Question is if it couldn't strengthen chemtrails once it escapes the kraft paper's hard shackles.

At least spell the danger correctly as KOW mentioned earlier. :)
 
GK100 said:
The thing that could most irritate the airways there is possible kiselgurmassa, magnesiamassa, and natriumsilikat on the bandages when everything is desert dry, it's not something to play with.

It seems a bit of spool thread is visible too, is it certainly identified, can be really sneaky, just like the formaldehyde in the old reliable MU. It's worth questioning if it might amplify chemtrails now that it's freed from the kraft paper's hard bonds.

At least spell the danger correctly, as KOW mentioned earlier. :)
GK100, exactly, I think the chem is the potential problem in this house. OT again, but it was really nice to get rid of the stinking korkoplastmatta! Your comment about spool thread, however, is something new to me. Can you elaborate?
 
If it was unclear, it was meant ironically, it's just regular thin steel or copper wire wound on a wooden stick in this case to bind around the insulation on the pipes. Probably visible in one of the pictures.

Yes, if we are to be a bit on track, your construction is probably on the verge of the time when many strange substances and materials were seen as the future.
 
Has nothing to do with Ts question. It was a couple of other posts about health risks. That's why the comment.
The reason I think there might be asbestos in the bends is because I have decontaminated x number of them precisely for asbestos.
What does my spelling have to do with it?
 
GK100 said:
If it was unclear, it was meant ironically, it's ordinary thin steel or copper wire wound on a wooden stick in this case to bind around the insulation on the pipes. You can probably see it a bit in one of the pictures.
Haha, totally missed the irony. Then I don't need to change my understanding of what spool wire is :)
 
Mattias Axelsson said:
Has nothing to do with TS's question. It was a couple of other posts about health risks. Hence the comment.
The reason I think there might be asbestos in the bends is because I have decontaminated several for asbestos.
What does my spelling have to do with it?
It wasn't your spelling but in general in threads of this nature. And of course, asbestos is a nuisance in cases where there are serious concerns, hard to find in cases like TS unless one tries to make a business of it, which at least I sometimes get the impression of. This probably applies to most dangers that can be turned into a fear for some people, from EM fields to the more exotic brain phantoms.

And to make use of your expertise, in what form and why would asbestos be used in the bends in a case like TS? Why wouldn't ordinary gypsum, etc., suddenly suffice in such a modern insulation where mineral, slag, or glass wool occurs?
 
Yes Mattias, your link probably reinforces my thought about geschäft and also provides an example of where fullmoon might have gotten their 90 percent figure from. It's far too general wording there for me to perceive it as an answer to my question about where you got this about bends, etc., from. To make it clear, it looks like an article in various industry magazines like EIO regarding electrical installations, where I personally have enough professional knowledge and insight to judge much of it as gibberish. Unfortunately, that's the case, and it's a pity for those who feel worried about the everyday asbestos danger, and by that, I don't mean any potential "trolls" here on BH.
 
GK100 said:
Yes Mattias, your link probably strengthens my thought about geschäft, and it also provides an example of where fullmoon might have gotten their 90% figure from. It's far too vague for me to see it as an answer to my question about where you got this about bends, etc., from. To make it clear, it looks like a contribution to various trade journals like EIO regarding electrical installations, where I have enough expertise and insight to judge much of it as nonsense. Unfortunately, that's the case, and it's a shame for those who feel worried about the everyday asbestos hazard, and I don't mean any "trolls" here on BH.
You're of course free to interpret everything as you wish.
It's pretty funny to be called a troll every time I comment in a thread and comment based on experience.
But that's clear since I've only worked with decontamination for over ten years and decontaminated thousands of bends, I shouldn't speak on the matter. I'll leave it to those of you who are more informed.
 
It wasn't you I somewhat frivolously referred to as a troll, but certain other thread creators on the forum where at least I tend to lean in that direction over time. You shouldn't become touchy or indignant about what I write, it's entirely sincerely meant as I wonder about asbestos in many cases, especially so-called bends on 60s-70s pipe insulation without major requirements. That's where you could fill in with how asbestos comes into play where otherwise it's mostly stone, slag, glass wool with paper, gypsum, water glass, gauze, etc.

I won't nag more or seem BW, that's not the intention, but now that you've worked with this maybe you know or have found out more than what's apparent from your link. Which seems to be spread in the construction industry so that even fullmoon seems to have picked up some figure, I've understood that they work with electricity.
 
I previously removed a post in the thread that was just before the GK100 post where trolls were mentioned. I believe that was the person he was referring to.

The post was removed because it was Off Topic, discussing the danger of asbestos, more than whether it exists or not in insulation like the one we see in the first post here in the thread.

/moderator
 
Mattias Axelsson said:
The link contains images of what it can look like when there is asbestos in the bends.
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That was a really good link, thank you Mattias.
 
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