They actually used asbestos in paint too. What you don't realize is that asbestos was extremely used.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWhmbaUTUD4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWhmbaUTUD4
Take it easy now... with your attitude, it must be unthinkable to deal with anything older than the 90s...raddforasbest said:
That thing with asbestos is tricky; one wonders why it has been used in so many materials for so long and everywhere. People have always renovated houses, etc., so why hasn't everyone died?
The same with brake pads; think of all those who have worked on cars, why haven't they died?
The numbers seem to be fuzzy.
Asbestos doesn't break down, so if they used brake pads with asbestos for a long time and then braked, the particles would fly into the air, so none of the asbestos in the air has disappeared, right?
Yes, sometimes one wonders about the materials one is dealing with, but honestly, it's not free to send in samples either.
One can only hope they've had good luck, simply put.
The same with brake pads; think of all those who have worked on cars, why haven't they died?
The numbers seem to be fuzzy.
Asbestos doesn't break down, so if they used brake pads with asbestos for a long time and then braked, the particles would fly into the air, so none of the asbestos in the air has disappeared, right?
Yes, sometimes one wonders about the materials one is dealing with, but honestly, it's not free to send in samples either.
One can only hope they've had good luck, simply put.
I have not read the entire thread but am responding based on the first post and the image. In bends, it's not uncommon for there to be asbestos. I wouldn't take any chances and would handle it as required. You can decontaminate it yourself. I would tape the bends with tight plastic very loosely and then tear directly into the plastic. Ensure good ventilation, wear a disposable coverall, tight clothing, and a proper face filter. Not a white one that only filters bricks.
Regarding how dangerous asbestos is, everyone reacts differently. I know several people who have experienced health problems from it, even died from the aftereffects.
I have an asbestos-cement roof on the summer cottage, which I have visited every year since 1970.
And in 1983, I took down the siding panels (=asbestos cement) on my then-house when I added extra insulation and put up wood paneling. We tried to take the siding panels to the dump, but the neighbors along the way took all of it as spare for their houses
I wonder if I'm living on borrowed time now :eek:
And in 1983, I took down the siding panels (=asbestos cement) on my then-house when I added extra insulation and put up wood paneling. We tried to take the siding panels to the dump, but the neighbors along the way took all of it as spare for their houses
I wonder if I'm living on borrowed time now :eek:
@raddforasbest
I wrote in an earlier post that it was previous owners who did the removal, and if you look closely, you can also see that it's painted where it's torn in the bend. I don't think anyone would paint during ongoing demolition, at least not me. I also think we should leave out kids and strong language from this discussion. I have asked if anyone can speak with certainty based on the image and have received both factual help and advice on careful handling from knowledgeable members here on the forum. And remediation companies can be great, but in my opinion, there are things that, with the right equipment and knowledge, can be done just as well by oneself, regardless of whether it is asbestos or other remediation concerned.
@everyoneelse: Thanks for all the replies, very good and educational help! We will put on our protective gear (we have good stuff), wrap the bends in thick plastic, and cut around them when it's time for that. Considering all parameters, I assess this as both a rational and cautious solution.
I wrote in an earlier post that it was previous owners who did the removal, and if you look closely, you can also see that it's painted where it's torn in the bend. I don't think anyone would paint during ongoing demolition, at least not me. I also think we should leave out kids and strong language from this discussion. I have asked if anyone can speak with certainty based on the image and have received both factual help and advice on careful handling from knowledgeable members here on the forum. And remediation companies can be great, but in my opinion, there are things that, with the right equipment and knowledge, can be done just as well by oneself, regardless of whether it is asbestos or other remediation concerned.
@everyoneelse: Thanks for all the replies, very good and educational help! We will put on our protective gear (we have good stuff), wrap the bends in thick plastic, and cut around them when it's time for that. Considering all parameters, I assess this as both a rational and cautious solution.
Okay, great, then you might as well freestyle if you ever need to be operated on or defended in court. Let's see how the thinking about consequences and logic holds up.Jesca said:
¨Mattias Axelsson said:
I don't want to contradict you, but are you absolutely sure you know SEVERAL?
My background is from an industry that was a big user of asbestos once upon a time but was also the first to stop using it. I was involved in large and continuous health investigations on older colleagues who had been in contact with asbestos, but despite this, I have not encountered many who have had health problems. That's why I wonder a bit because it's not that common after all.
Yes, several where the cause was stated to be asbestos. We also did continuous health checks because we worked with remediation and primarily asbestos.
