I'm throwing in the towel!

[Plupp 284245]

There is an eight-millimeter difference. Almost a whole centimeter... not okay!!

Well, how do you think then?

 

[Erik Salhammar]

Well, what do you mean?

Haha, I work with Sten, so I think in inches. I read it as 15cm and 96mm but now I understand that it was an eighth of a millimeter..? And yes, that's quite a difference..

 

[Micc]

No... It's 0.08 mm that makes the difference...

 

[Karldanaxel]

there is an eight millimeters difference. Almost a whole centimeter.. not okay!!

How was it with the math again? The difference is 0.08mm - or 0.008 cm! Okay or not okay depends on where it will be used.

 

[connywesth]

I understand...

My absurd precision is probably due in many cases to not knowing what is acceptable. If it were okay according to AMA, I think I would accept the execution.

Example:

I want a parquet floor in the living room. I want underfloor heating in front of a window section. The base is 22mm particle board. I was planning to lay T2 reflect sheets where I want the underfloor heating and the remaining area gypsum board and then parquet over the entire surface.

I tell the contractor that I want exactly this parquet and underfloor heating in front of the window section.

He does the job and everything is fine until the parquet floor starts to creak.

Then it turns out that both the reflect sheets and the gypsum board can be laid on particle board but it is implicitly understood that the particle board must be well screwed into the underlying joist. In this case, it was only poorly nailed.

Who bears the cost of the remedy?

Has the contractor made a mistake by not checking that the particle board is properly screwed down?

The contractor will most likely claim that I got what I requested and that he does not take responsibility if the particle board was sufficiently screwed down.

If you don't know the standard that is the norm, you need to specify all the work and methodology that the contractor should work according to, so it might be worth reading up and understanding the standard that several here have referred to.

If you are going to design a contract in super detail, you need to hire a really good lawyer, which in itself will cost more than the entire build...

 

[Derbyboy]

So you mean the lawyer knows which building codes apply?

 

[connywesth]

So you mean that the lawyer knows which building codes apply?

It must be a lawyer who specializes in construction contracts, but the lawyer's task is to draft the contract according to your instructions, so it's you who must provide the technical expertise. The lawyer knows how to draft the contract itself, not the building codes.

But that was the answer to the question of how you should "secure" that the supplier will do the job exactly the way you want it.

It's a completely different matter to find a supplier willing to take on the job, and it probably won't be cheap. But that's how all contracts are, the more demands you make as a client, the more expensive the contract will be for you. "Every requirement costs money to make." So as a client, you should not make more demands than necessary to get what you want.

 

[Derbyboy]

I can draft contracts, so that part is covered. There's no need for a lawyer in this case.

I asked about building codes, standards, and regulations. It should be included in the price that the builder follows these.

 

[garvin]

I would tell you not to have too high expectations. Unfortunately.

I hired painters for interior painting for my house construction because I didn't have time to paint myself and wanted a really nice finish in our new house.

The result was mixed. I've painted quite a bit during the renovation of our previous house and honestly, what I painted generally held a higher standard even though I'm an amateur. When they wanted extra payment for making it look good, I declined. I had planned to use them for the final coat outside as well but chose to do it myself after this.

It should be added, however, that they were incredibly much faster than I am. When I paint, I often go back several times to touch up and spend a lot of time masking carefully.

In any case, I had higher thoughts about painters. Is there no professional pride?

(It should also be noted that I did not choose the cheapest quote and they had several good references)

Did you have multiple companies painting?

 

[connywesth]

I can write contracts so that part is fine. No lawyer is needed in this case.

I asked about building codes, standards, and regulations. The builder should adhere to these as part of the price.

That may be true, but it's best to include it in the contract and require that an independent inspector must approve the construction without any remarks before the delivery is accepted, and only then can they invoice. As long as the work is shorter than a month, otherwise, you should divide the deliveries into parts. We often do that in my industry (IT).

 

[Styrman_jansson]

Did you have multiple companies doing the painting?

No, just one company. However, several painters.

Unfortunately, I've noticed the same standard in most other new constructions I've been in, so it's probably industry standard.

 

[AndersS]

I asked about building codes, standards, and building regulations. It should be included in the price that the builder follows these.

The risk, based on how you describe yourself, is that you are not satisfied with the current recommendations/regulations/standards for quality assessment and potential action.
Regulations are not black and white though, and allow for deviations depending on the circumstances, for example, that rectifying a defect may not be reasonable in proportion to the cost and could instead result in a price reduction.
The end result also depends on what materials, products, etc., are used and what individual manufacturers have specified as recommendations for use. There are also pitfalls here based on how different products are used together. There are also pitfalls here since no companies/craftsmen can be familiar with all the products available on the market, such as if one insists on choosing the materials themselves.