Choice of glue? Wooden stud against concrete.

[Intet]

I have read it. But the properties seem to overlap so that they become equivalent. Who would, for example, want a glue that doesn’t stick to wet surfaces?

 

[Alfredo]

In my innocence, I thought I was asking a question to get an answer to what I asked about and not to help others with answers to things I didn't ask about.

One does not exclude the other. This is what the rules say:

Ҥ 5 Discussion Rules
The forum on Byggahus.se is for consumers, i.e., private individuals, who are building or renovating. Here we exchange experiences, take and give advice.”

I interpret this as the primary purpose is not for a questioner to get a concrete answer to a specific question but rather that it is a discussion forum where the topic can be discussed, which often leads to another and better solution than the questioner originally thought. This is beneficial for the entire forum collective. Therefore, I think it is unfortunate when the questioner criticizes unwanted answers as it risks inhibiting the discussion.

 

[wildeside]

I have read it. But the properties seem to overlap each other so that they become equivalent. Who would want, for example, a glue that doesn't stick to wet surfaces?

Yes, they seem to overlap quite a lot, the biggest difference seems to be that PL600 grips immediately, eliminating the need for support fixation.

 

[wildeside]

One does not exclude the other. Here's what the rules say:

Ӥ 5 Discussion Rules
The forum on Byggahus.se is intended for consumers, i.e., private individuals, who are building or renovating. Here we exchange experiences, take and give advice.”

I interpret this as the primary purpose is not for a questioner to get a specific answer to a specific question but rather that it is a discussion forum where the topic can be discussed, which often leads to a different and better solution than the questioner initially envisioned. This benefits the entire forum collective. Therefore, I find it unfortunate when the questioner criticizes unwanted responses as it risks hindering the discussion.

If we're going to be sticklers for the rules!
§ 5.2 Stick to the topic
It is better to start a new thread than to diverge from the topic. Multiple topics in the same thread make it difficult to find the information you are looking for.
It significantly hinders the discussion when the topic is not adhered to.
CHOICE OF GLUE? WOODEN STUD AGAINST CONCRETE!
Whether it is better or worse with a steel stud is not staying on the topic!
Nowadays, it is not uncommon for even construction companies to choose to glue both steel and wooden studs to the concrete slab for interior walls.
But that doesn't mean it is the right or best solution..

 

[Alfredo]

Whether it is better or worse with steel rule is not keeping to the topic!

I think it does stay within the topic, but of course, it depends on how narrowly one interprets the topic. Here, your interpretation is narrower than mine, and there might be no one other than possibly a moderator who can determine which of us is more correct.

 

[sjoelund]

I have read it. But the properties seem to overlap each other so that they become equivalent. Who wants a glue that doesn't adhere to wet surfaces, for example?

PL600 is said to be for indoor use, right? That's quite a significant difference.

 

[Intet]

PL600 says for indoor use, right? That's a pretty significant difference.

So PL400 is for both indoor and outdoor use.

 

[sjoelund]

So PL400 is for both indoor and outdoor use.

Yes

 

[Alfredo]

PL400 isn't that available anymore?

At the risk of being OT 😉, yes it is. Here, for example:

https://www.bauhaus.se/montagelim-pl400-perfekt-vit-300ml

 

[wildeside]

At the risk of being OT 😉, yes, there is. For example here:

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It's probably not OT, it's about glue anyway😉

 

[hempularen]

I have used PL400 with very good results (marble window sill against a very small attachment surface, indoors).

I have used PL600 with ridiculously poor results, Styrofoam boards against a concrete retaining wall. It was meant to stay only until I refilled, but winter came in between. In the spring, all the Styrofoam boards were loose in the pit. The adhesive remained on both the concrete and the boards. So, it was the adhesive that couldn't withstand the outdoor climate.

Not comparable conditions. But I don't trust PL600 after that.

 

[wildeside]

I have used PL400 with very good results (marble windowsill against a very small attachment surface, indoors).

I have used PL600 with ridiculously poor results, polystyrene sheets against a concrete retaining wall. It was meant to hold only until I refilled, but winter came in between. In the spring, all the polystyrene sheets were loose in the pit. The adhesive remained both on the concrete and the sheets. So it was the adhesive that couldn't handle the outdoor climate.

Not comparable conditions. But I don't trust PL600 after that.

Might be because PL600 is apparently for indoor use.

 

[wildeside]

Has anyone tried polyurethane glue between wood and concrete?
I have glued bricks with it and it worked well.

 

[wildeside]

Answering my own question due to lack of better responses.
Test glued with Biltema multibond rapid art.nr 38-029.
The result was above expectations.
After several blows with a 2 kg sledgehammer, the 20 cm stud detached from the concrete by simply breaking in the wood, so the glue and part of the wood stud remained attached to the concrete.
I must say it is a good construction adhesive for a cheap price 79,90:-.