Choice of glue? Wooden stud against concrete.

[wildeside]

Which adhesive should be chosen for gluing floor joists to concrete indoors?

 

[Stensson11]

Which glue should be chosen for gluing floor joists to concrete indoors?

Not good with wood against concrete.
Get a metal rail instead and glue with some mounting glue.

 

[Denniis]

Pl600 works without problems for both concrete and brick, I have used it and it adheres very strongly after it has cured.

 

[wildeside]

Not good to use wood against concrete. Get a metal rail instead and glue it with some construction adhesive.

Now that wasn't the question if it was good or not! But I'll give an answer anyway. The ground was filled with 1.5 meter of stone material before the slab was cast. A plastic sheet has been taped to the concrete and has been there for a year without any sign of moisture, so I think it's quite risk-free to glue the wooden stud directly to the concrete.

 

[wildeside]

PL600 works without any problems on both concrete and brick, I have used it and it holds very tightly after it has cured.

Read a bit about PL600, feels like the right adhesive.
Okay, open time = 10 min allows enough time to spread the adhesive, mount the beam, and secure it in place before the adhesive cures.

 

[Stensson11]

The question wasn't whether it was good or not! But I'll give an answer anyway.
The ground was filled with 1.5 meters of stone material before the slab was cast.
A plastic sheet has been taped to the concrete and has been there for a year without any signs of moisture, so I think it's quite risk-free to glue the wooden beam directly to the concrete.

Well, I don't know why I bother😀

 

[wildeside]

Iofs. Don't know why I'm bothering😀

I don't know either!
I asked which glue was good and you answered "assembly glue" which I do understand, but which of all the options should I choose?
Metal rail or not was not what I asked about.😉

 

[Alfredo]

I didn't ask about a metal strip or not.

How lucky you were that someone still took the time to provide a universally good answer.

 

[wildeside]

How lucky you were that someone still managed to give a universally good answer.

I am very grateful that I receive answers and information about things I haven't even asked about!
It really helps me a lot in solving my question about which glue is recommended with the answer to use a metal strip.😂

 

[Alfredo]

It really helps me a lot

It can help others, which is the main purpose of the forum.

 

[wildeside]

It can help others, which is the main purpose of the forum.

😂😂😂😂
Is the forum's main purpose to help others when you start a thread and ask about your own thoughts?
In my naivety, I thought I was asking a question to get answers to what I asked about and not to help others with answers to things I didn't ask about.

But I'll continue in that spirit, here's another tip on the subject that doesn't answer my question.
Use metal nail plug 5x22 for the metal track so you don't have to glue it.

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[Workingclasshero]

This is a nice nail to attach things to concrete.
When I ask a question, I feel selfish and just want to know the right answer, but when I read other questions and answers, there are always things to learn.
I have to like that openness anyway.

PL400, is it no longer available?
A friend emptied a half-full tube of PL400 into a half-full oil pan, later in the week when it was time to clean and pour the oil into the designated place, the PL400 was stuck at the bottom of the oil pan and had to be chiseled away.
But PL600 sounds like it’s an even better sequel
/Workingclasshero

 

[wildeside]

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This is a nice spike to attach things with in concrete.
When I ask a question, I feel selfish and just want to know the correct answer, but when I read other questions and answers, there's always something to learn.
I have to like that openness.

Does PL400 no longer exist?
A friend emptied a half-full tube of PL400 into a half-full oil pan, later that week when it was time to clean and pour the oil into the designated place, the PL400 was stuck to the bottom of the oil pan and had to be chiseled out.
But PL600 sounds like an even better successor
/Workingclasshero

I don't mind if additional information related to the topic is added, but I expect that there is relevant information in response to the question posed in the thread.

 

[Intet]

What is the difference between PL 400 and 600? I've never understood it.

 

[wildeside]

What is the difference between PL 400 and 600? I've never understood it.

PL400
Perfekt has been developed for most common building materials where high demands are placed on environment, final strength, and easy application.
PL400 Perfekt is a modern, elastic, and weather-resistant construction adhesive based on SP-polymer technology, which cures with the help of air humidity into a strong, flexible, and movement-absorbing adhesive joint.

Application Area​

For indoor & outdoor use, especially on wood, plasterboard, metal, building boards, panels, glass, ceramics.
Product Advantages

• Extreme initial strength for equivalent product
• Fast curing
• Elastic
• High mechanical strength
• Free from isocyanates, phthalates, and solvents
• Low emissions, EC1+.
• Can be used at lower temperatures down to -15°C.

PL600
Water-based adhesive with an initial quick grip capability allowing objects to be glued directly to walls without support fixing. The strength of the adhesive joint increases over time.

Application Area​

For gluing and installing studs, moldings, trims, panels, sheet material, fittings, fan hoods, ceramic tiles (not in wet areas), shelves, cabinets etc., indoors of/onto: Wood, MDF, plaster, cork, foam plastic, PVC, plastic (test first), sheet metal, aluminum, brass, copper, fiberglass, brick, stone, plaster, concrete.
Product Advantages

• Direct grip
• Adheres to moist surfaces
• Gap-filling
• Odor and solvent-free
• Paintable