Agreement with the Housing Cooperative when demolishing load-bearing

[Herrman5]

Really!

This operation is truly risky, not the place to slack on the permission here.

With all respect for the usual complaints in the housing association.

But you need to bring in expert help for that wall. 18 cm solid concrete takes on enormous loads. If I lived in the house, I definitely wouldn't want some happy amateur or random carpenter doing the job.

I think the “agreement” is rather too lenient. The association relies here on the municipality to determine the level of construction documentation and inspections. The association has an interest in ensuring this as the property owner. The municipality often allows insufficient documents, and nothing other than self-inspection programs from the craftsman. As a property owner, one should not settle for this in such a risky project.

I live on the top floor 3/3 and no loads from above except possibly snow accumulation, it's directly under the roof. Is it really that risky? The large wall is 260 wide and the small one 160.

I understand it's not for just any bungler, of course.

I was hoping that the entire job could be done under 100,000 kr, the structural engineer is supposed to cost about 10,000 kr for drawing, I can imagine the final inspection landing at 5,000 - 10,000 kr but also according to the agreement I need to have a QA who, according to some googling, not unusually demands about 20,000 kr. I think it sounds ridiculously much for a relatively small operation in its entirety. But then again, I am inexperienced too.

Smell and sound transmission, who checks this?

 

[Viktor.J]

I live on the top floor 3/3 and no loads from above except possibly snow formation, it's the roof directly above.
Is it really that risky? The large wall is 260 wide and the small one 160.

I understand that it's not for any amateur, of course.

I hoped that the total job could be done under 100,000 SEK, the structural engineer should receive around 10,000 SEK for the drawing, I can imagine the final inspection landing at 5,000 - 10,000 SEK but also according to the agreement I need to have a KA which according to some googling usually requires around 20,000 SEK. It sounds insanely expensive for a relatively small intervention in its entirety. But but I'm inexperienced too.

Smell and sound transmission, who checks this?

You say you are inexperienced and "is it really that risky". You can ask yourself why they built what they built if there aren't that many loads? It's rare to over-dimension apartment buildings just for fun.

Step 1 is probably to bring in a structural engineer who can look at the job and prepare drawing materials. After that, I would proceed with any applications, find contractors, etc.

That it costs money is just a fact. It's the same for everyone.

 

[Herrman5]

You say you are inexperienced and "is it really that risky". You can ask yourself why they built what they built if there aren't that many loads? it's rare to over-dimension apartment buildings for fun.

Step 1 is probably to bring in a structural engineer who can look at the job and create drawing materials. Then I would proceed with any application, find contractors etc.

That it costs money is just something to accept. It's the same for everyone.

Apts on floors 1 and 2 are in the same design as mine on floor 3.
So if I ask myself, I think they dimension for the loads for the apt at the bottom and then use the same dimensions all the way up for simplicity's sake. Instead of building with new dimensions and thus changing other measurements in the apt too, it seems unnecessarily complicated. But I could be wrong. This is something the building engineer will obviously decide. I just thought "extremely risky work" sounded a bit much, but as I said, I'm probably wrong.

Step 1. I agree, but I waited with ordering drawings since I didn't have an OK from the association until recently, it felt unnecessary to throw 10,000 down the drain if I didn't have the association's approval first.

Of course, I understand it costs the same for everyone.
Surely, one must be able to question the price for it, right?