I did not mean building permits, I meant to search in the "detaljplan" for biggest building areas. If you buy a house with for ex. 300 m2 area, and the "detaljplan" says maximum 200 m2, you will know someting's wrongD Dilato skrev:
But How old is the house?
If it is very old (and the extension also), then it is possible that no permit was needed whern it was built. In that case the sellers info is "kind of" correct.
Also, for old houses, even if there was a permit when it was built, it may have been lost by the commun.
My parents built a summer house 1961. They basically did not follow any part of the permit. The house was too big, too high, and not placed correctly. In 1981 they wanted to make a small extension, and were nervous about the status compared to the old permit.
However the commun said that all permits had been lost or mislaid when communs were consolidated in the late 60 s. The small communities were combinded with towns and cities. And asked if maybe my parents had copies of the plans...
If it is very old (and the extension also), then it is possible that no permit was needed whern it was built. In that case the sellers info is "kind of" correct.
Also, for old houses, even if there was a permit when it was built, it may have been lost by the commun.
My parents built a summer house 1961. They basically did not follow any part of the permit. The house was too big, too high, and not placed correctly. In 1981 they wanted to make a small extension, and were nervous about the status compared to the old permit.
However the commun said that all permits had been lost or mislaid when communs were consolidated in the late 60 s. The small communities were combinded with towns and cities. And asked if maybe my parents had copies of the plans...
It's not that old and the building permits were needed at that time, as kommun rejected the application for building permits. The "funny" is that kommun instructed the owners that were doing extention of the house and buildings at that time, to demolish all the additional buildings they did and the extention. Kommun supposed to come few months after to check if the owner stopped the work and demolish the one they already built, and....... the check was never done by kommun so the owned that build it just continued with the work
This has been discussed many times on the forum and if memory serves me right it's on the buyer to check permits with the municipality BUT if the seller lies and stays all permits are in order then the responsibility shifts to the seller. But you have to be able to prove that they lied. And make sure the sellers are the same people that actually had those illegal parts of the house built in other case they will just say the sellers in their case assured them they had aöl the permits in order. And then you might not have a case.A Roszka skrev:
Om du hade läst tråden så hade du fått svar på fråganSkumpe skrev:
A trip to the court is a chance you take.
If you only se money and like to make it simple. It can quit in three different way.
There one is you "win" and you get the money and not the lawyers fee.
The other one is you "loose" and you take all the lawyers fee.
The last one is the court think you loose one and you win one. In that case you got the money and your own lawyers fee. In this case both the lawyers laugh.
So funny is the court.... And so hard os the reality.
Is the house bigger then "detaljplan"
If you only se money and like to make it simple. It can quit in three different way.
There one is you "win" and you get the money and not the lawyers fee.
The other one is you "loose" and you take all the lawyers fee.
The last one is the court think you loose one and you win one. In that case you got the money and your own lawyers fee. In this case both the lawyers laugh.
So funny is the court.... And so hard os the reality.
Is the house bigger then "detaljplan"
That could be a problem in court.A Roszka skrev:
You never know.
Well, it's not a very common practice in Sweden to do it and also not required by the law. Now, I know...
We have asked pur broker if there is anything we should do as it was our first house in Sweden and they never mentioned any detaljplan or checking building permits. I wouldn't be surprised if she knew or at least suspected..
We have asked pur broker if there is anything we should do as it was our first house in Sweden and they never mentioned any detaljplan or checking building permits. I wouldn't be surprised if she knew or at least suspected..
Redigerat:
Not that common if my broker has never mentioned that, as we are quite new to Sweden, we specifically ask her if there is anything we should look into, she never mentioned any detajlplan.
By the law, buyers don't have the responsibility to check that if the seller confirms that all documents are correct. So, the Swedish law means nothing in this case? I am just trying to understand how this works...
How a seller by the law has responsibility to provide all correct information, but then... when they don't, they don't take any responsibilities according to some other law. I am so confused
By the law, buyers don't have the responsibility to check that if the seller confirms that all documents are correct. So, the Swedish law means nothing in this case? I am just trying to understand how this works...
How a seller by the law has responsibility to provide all correct information, but then... when they don't, they don't take any responsibilities according to some other law. I am so confused
A Roszka skrev:
You are not alone in that, Swedish law especially around building permits and limitations are sometimes contradicting and very hard to actually understand the purpose with.A Roszka skrev:
I've tried to read all your comments, I think as others suggested take it with the lawyer. The chance of getting a definitive answer on this fora is very slim.