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Nissens Nissens said:
Can you elaborate on that reasoning?
If one is not going to cover the inside, it seems strange to make the building weaker…
If you're not going to cover the inside, you don't need to adjust the framing to fit board measurements.
I've put together quite a few projects on my previous properties, and a smaller building with a relatively small roof doesn't experience significant loads requiring cc600 framing, in my opinion.
I don't agree with weaker, as a 45*95 angle is made at the bottom and top of the walls.
 
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Frerider Frerider said:
It is common to space the beams more widely if the interior will not be clad or insulated, but 1000c/c is rather unusual, better with 1200c/c in that case.
cc1000 in this case seems to have been chosen to match the roof trusses which he has also set at cc1000.
 
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I Incinerator said:
cc1000 in this case seems to be chosen to match the rafters which he has also set at cc1000.
Ok, then I understand. It will be good, just do as others have written: set braces with perforated tape on the walls and possibly in the ceiling as well.
 
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I Incinerator said:
If you're not going to clad the inside, you don't need to adapt the stud spacing to board dimensions.
I've put together quite a bit on my previous properties, and a smaller building with a rather small roof doesn't face any significant load, so you don't need to space studs at cc600 in my opinion.
I don't agree with it being weaker since it's made with an angle of 45*95 at the bottom and top of the walls.
Well, since the board material on the inside stiffens the whole structure, it becomes weaker without it. If you also reduce the number of studs in the wall, then the structure is likely to weaken further...

It certainly won't become stronger when the spacing between the studs is wider. And it's hardly the case that the studs are adjusted to the board's dimensions; rather, it's the other way around. The boards are adapted to the construction...
 
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Frerider Frerider said:
It is common to space the studs further apart if the inside is not going to be clad or insulated, but 1000c/c is a bit unusual; better with 1200c/c in that case.
Better with longer spacing between wall studs? I think it is advantageous to have a post/wall stud under each truss, regardless of the distance you set the trusses apart.
 
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F fribygg said:
Better with longer spacing between wall studs? I think it's advantageous to have a post/wall stud under each roof truss, regardless of the distance at which the trusses are placed.
Yes, basing the c/c measurement on 600c/c-1200c/c is the norm.
But TS's friend has built a small storage shed of 5x5m and they have placed the roof trusses at 1000c/c to achieve an even distribution.
However, it is not standard to have roof trusses at 1000c/c; normally, they are most often spaced 1200c/c apart.
 
Frerider Frerider said:
Yes, basing the c/c measurement on 600c/c-1200c/c is the norm.
But TS's friend has built a small shed at 5x5m, and they placed the trusses at 1000c/c for an even distribution.
But normally, you don't place trusses at 1000c/c; it's usually 1200c/c between them.
Sure, that's the norm, but for an uninsulated shed with a meter between the trusses, it can't be better with 1200mm c/c as you claimed. The unusual/odd measurement of 1000mm fits better in this particular case.
 
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Of course it is the norm, but for an uninsulated shed with a meter between the rafters, it can't be better with 1200mm c/c as you claimed, but the unusual/odd measurement of 1000mm fits better in this particular case.
Didn't claim that it would be better in TS's case, where are you getting that from?
I wrote that 1000c/c is a bit odd, but when TS explained the circumstances, I agreed, so I don't understand your point at all, to be honest🤷
 
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Frerider Frerider said:
It is common to space studs more widely if the inside will not be covered or insulated, but 1000c/c is a bit odd, better with 1200c/c in that case.
 
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Completely pointless posts! How does this not help the OP at all.
Just looking for conflict, sad but true!
 
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Frerider Frerider said:
Didn't claim it would be better in TS's case, where do you get that from?
I wrote that 1000c/c is a bit unusual, but when TS explained the circumstances, I agreed, so I honestly don't understand your point at all🤷
Frerider Frerider said:
Completely pointless posts! How does this help TS not at all.
Just seeking conflict, sad but true!
So how do you think these posts of yours help TS with the planned construction of trusses with 1000mm c/c?
 
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F fribygg said:
So how do you think these posts of yours help TS who planned construction with roof trusses with c/c 1000mm?
Yes, they came about because of YOU!🤓

TS and I have an understanding so I don't know what you're after other than squabbling.
 
Is it completely out of the question to use diagonals in the corners? Based on n=1, it made a big difference and then only in two opposite corners.
 
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F fribygg said:
So how do you think these posts of yours help TS who planned a construction with trusses with c/c 1000mm?
TS has not planned any construction, he is going to help a friend who has already done parts of this construction and try to make it more stable without tearing it down and redoing it completely.
 
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Z z_bumbi said:
Is it completely out of the question to have diagonals in the corners? Based on n=1, it made a big difference and then only in two opposite corners.
What do you mean? The plan is to help my friend tomorrow so all info and tips are gratefully received.
 
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