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Which insulation for winter-cold shed/summer cabin?
Some click-floor manufacturers recommend not keeping it cold without maintenance heating.
Click floors can be sealed if they are to be used in areas at risk for moisture/water, such as kitchens or entrances. But we haven't done that, and in the entrance/hall, we have tiles.
No, foil doesn't make any difference; the insulation is crucial. Some underfloor heating mats have foil to make them thinner, perhaps also for better heat distribution, but that's just a guess.
Sure, you can install electric underfloor heating for comfort, but you can't save that cost with smaller radiators. The difference between a larger or smaller radiator is just a small part of the cost of underfloor heating.
If you choose the Komfortgolvvärme product, it's only meant to provide a warmer floor.
You also write "temporarily heat up the few times we are there in autumn/winter/spring." Consider what your actual need is and what you're willing to pay for comfort floor heating.
When assessing the need, also include items like a wood stove, heat pump, etc., so you see the whole picture.
In our holiday house, we've designed for heating with electric radiators; we have a stove with a Keddy insert, underfloor heating in the bathroom (also a towel warmer as a radiator) and entrance. This year, a heat pump with mobile control will also be installed.
The house is maintained at about 10-12 degrees during the winter, 80m2. The guest cottage of 15m2 only has an electric radiator. Both houses are built on a concrete slab with 100mm and 200mm underneath, respectively, differing slightly depending on when they were built and expanded.
Click floors can be sealed if they are to be used in areas at risk for moisture/water, such as kitchens or entrances. But we haven't done that, and in the entrance/hall, we have tiles.
No, foil doesn't make any difference; the insulation is crucial. Some underfloor heating mats have foil to make them thinner, perhaps also for better heat distribution, but that's just a guess.
Sure, you can install electric underfloor heating for comfort, but you can't save that cost with smaller radiators. The difference between a larger or smaller radiator is just a small part of the cost of underfloor heating.
If you choose the Komfortgolvvärme product, it's only meant to provide a warmer floor.
You also write "temporarily heat up the few times we are there in autumn/winter/spring." Consider what your actual need is and what you're willing to pay for comfort floor heating.
When assessing the need, also include items like a wood stove, heat pump, etc., so you see the whole picture.
In our holiday house, we've designed for heating with electric radiators; we have a stove with a Keddy insert, underfloor heating in the bathroom (also a towel warmer as a radiator) and entrance. This year, a heat pump with mobile control will also be installed.
The house is maintained at about 10-12 degrees during the winter, 80m2. The guest cottage of 15m2 only has an electric radiator. Both houses are built on a concrete slab with 100mm and 200mm underneath, respectively, differing slightly depending on when they were built and expanded.
Good points!
Primarily, it is the friggebod that needs to be completed; the house will wait another year or at least until summer. In the cabin (and probably in the house later) I have the following priority order:
1. Comfort.
Not at any cost, but I will not scrimp on every penny. I want underfloor heating because I hate cold floors. I want enough insulation and heat sources to be able to heat up reasonably quickly even on a cold winter day/night. I am not opposed to using extra portable heaters for an hour or two initially to help the permanently installed heat sources quickly raise the temperature.
2. Installation cost.
I can consider spending a little extra money on something as unnecessary and heating inefficient as electric underfloor heating to achieve point 1. Even if underfloor heating plus x number of radiators costs more than x+1 radiators, I prefer underfloor heating due to point 1. I can even choose underfloor heating plus x+1 radiators. If the installation requires more than necessary to heat up on a cold winter day because the insulation is minimal, I can accept that. In that case, living space is more important.
3. Heating cost.
The cabin and the house will primarily be used as a summer house, with the possibility to use them during colder seasons (which now also includes summer...
). If it costs more than necessary to heat on a cold winter day because the insulation is minimal, I can accept that. Again, in this case, living space is more important than the efficiency of the insulation. Regarding underfloor heating, see point 2.
In other words, I am willing to spend a little extra on underfloor heating even if it is not as effective for heating the room as a wall radiator. If there is a product group called Comfort Underfloor Heating, that is probably what I am looking for.
Sincerely,
ToRy
Primarily, it is the friggebod that needs to be completed; the house will wait another year or at least until summer. In the cabin (and probably in the house later) I have the following priority order:
1. Comfort.
Not at any cost, but I will not scrimp on every penny. I want underfloor heating because I hate cold floors. I want enough insulation and heat sources to be able to heat up reasonably quickly even on a cold winter day/night. I am not opposed to using extra portable heaters for an hour or two initially to help the permanently installed heat sources quickly raise the temperature.
2. Installation cost.
I can consider spending a little extra money on something as unnecessary and heating inefficient as electric underfloor heating to achieve point 1. Even if underfloor heating plus x number of radiators costs more than x+1 radiators, I prefer underfloor heating due to point 1. I can even choose underfloor heating plus x+1 radiators. If the installation requires more than necessary to heat up on a cold winter day because the insulation is minimal, I can accept that. In that case, living space is more important.
3. Heating cost.
The cabin and the house will primarily be used as a summer house, with the possibility to use them during colder seasons (which now also includes summer...
In other words, I am willing to spend a little extra on underfloor heating even if it is not as effective for heating the room as a wall radiator. If there is a product group called Comfort Underfloor Heating, that is probably what I am looking for.
Sincerely,
ToRy
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