Have a wall that I initially thought was gypsum since it sounds hollow. However, I don't hear any studs when I knock on the wall, which I do in other gypsum walls in the apartment. When I drill (with a regular drill, not a hammer drill), there isn't much resistance. The material is dark gray, and there are no "voids." The apartment was built in the mid-50s. The plan was to put up an Elfa bookshelf. Could it be some form of lightweight concrete?
 
  • Close-up of a dark hole drilled in a grey wall, possibly made of aerated concrete, with ragged edges and slight red marks around it.
D doroni said:
I have a wall that I first thought was gypsum since it sounds hollow. However, I can't hear any studs when I knock on the wall, which I hear in other gypsum walls in the apartment. When I drill (with a regular drill, not impact), there isn't much resistance. The material is dark gray, and there are no "voids." The apartment was built in the mid-50s. The plan was to put up an Elfa bookshelf. Could it be some form of lightweight concrete?
Just regular blue Ytong that was popular at that time
 
How much weight can such walls support?
 
Difficult to answer exactly, but with a coarser screw and an 8mm plug, it holds well. The length of the screw is of course important. You should have at least 45mm, preferably 60mm.

What are you planning to hang up?
 
An elfa bookshelf with a carry rail. So you attach the carry rail high up on the wall and then the vertical rails on it. It will be quite heavy. About 2 m wide and five shelves + many books. Is it unwise to put on such a wall?
 
That variant of the ELFA shelf indeed sits less securely than the variant where you attach to the vertical tracks, as there are more mounting points. But a 6mm screw in lightweight concrete holds very well. There is also no direct outward pulling force. Therefore, with 6 screws it should hold for many 100 kg. I wouldn't hesitate about it.
 
Thanks for the help! Do you recommend any specific plug and screw or can I use any that is meant for lightweight concrete?
 
D doroni said:
Thanks for the help! Do you recommend any specific plugs and screws or can I go with any that are meant for lightweight concrete?
You can certainly take any plug that is adapted for lightweight concrete.
 
Use regular plastic, if you use one made of metal that expands more, there's a risk it will crack, very porous material. As a bonus info: Don't try to screw near a door frame and for heaven's sake don't use frame screws to attach a new door frame :) (speaking from experience, the door casings and wallpaper held that wall together afterward).
 
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D doroni said:
Thanks for the help! Do you recommend any specific plug and screw, or can I just use any that are meant for lightweight concrete?
These came with the bookshelf. 8mm plug, for regular concrete but maybe they'll work?
 
  • 8mm wall plug and screw on wooden surface, used for concrete installations.
J Johan456 said:
That version of the ELFA shelf is indeed less secure than the version that is fastened in the vertical tracks, as it involves more connections. But a 6mm screw in lightweight concrete holds very well. There is also no direct outward tension. Therefore, with 6 screws, it should hold many 100kg. I wouldn't hesitate on that.
there are holes in the hanging rail too so I can screw 1-2 screws per rail as well to make it extra secure.
 
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