Suggestions for reinforcing an existing built Lecawall against burglary?

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[leifa.k]

I don't know, but. When I was expanding with a basement, lecablock as a foundation wall. The recommendation was double reinforcement every third layer. I went with double reinforcement every layer, stronger, more resilient as I imagined at the time. With a pocket knife, you can pry off the moldings and window panes if they're not secured against it, special windows. We don't have those, but we do have 2 German Shepherds that are a bit "trained." So we feel safe as long as no one crazy comes and takes the lives of the dogs, but there are two of them, so it would be tough for them to succeed, that's what it depends on.

 

[Cheesen]

I would be a bit cautious with gates, cameras, and security systems. If one is afraid of being robbed at home, such systems indicate that there is something worth protecting. Hardcore criminals don't particularly care if there's a camera or security system; they care if there's potential for a good score. With your fancy system, you're signaling that there are valuable things to be taken here. (Just look at the helicopter robbery of G4S. They had security they boasted about, which made it tempting enough to attempt a robbery.)
If you compare G4S to, for example, the storage location of the country's gold reserve, I would argue that the security was much higher at G4S, but the allure became too great for criminals because it was so clear that there was something to protect. The shed where the gold reserve is stored does not signal that it is full of gold and thus remains safe.

 

[raderat]

I would be a bit cautious with gates, cameras, and security systems. If you're afraid of being robbed at home, such systems indicate that there's something worth protecting.

So it's time again to spread this myth. The above is based on what you personally believe or what you personally think would be logical or how it was a long time ago, there is no support for this in statistics.

There was some truth to your statement in the 90s when home alarms started to appear. Having alarms was something that stood out and signaled that there was something to steal because only a certain target group had the need for alarms.

In an increasing number of places in Sweden today, it's the opposite, being the only house on the street without an alarm is seen as standing out. Just because it isn't like that where you live, doesn't mean it doesn't look like that elsewhere. Times have changed, get with the program. It's no longer a chest of gold and jewelry and an expensive TV they want, it's passports and cars to sell or use for other planned crimes. Most people have nothing of value to steal at home; it's mostly oneself and one's family one wants to protect. I think few actually care about losing their car compared to having a gun drawn on them in front of their family in the middle of the night when they were sleeping. For some of you, this is obviously science fiction. Congratulations to you, but for many others, this is happening more frequently in the vicinity.

The reason G4S got robbed is that it was a (known) cash depot. The reason they had many security systems is that it was a cash depot. It's a really strange argument to compare brutal home invasions with the robbery of a cash depot, and to draw incorrect conclusions from this. Are you recommending that cash depots should reduce their security to decrease the risk of robbery? Good luck selling that concept.

 

[Markarbetaren]

I have to agree with bossebyggarn here. It doesn't really work that way that the criminals roam around the suburbs checking who has electric gates and cameras and choose targets based on that. This sorting is done by the criminals at home in front of the computer. They check who drives an AMG Mercedes, Audi RS6, or Range Rover, etc. What income they have, which companies they oversee, and so on. It's not uncommon to catch their interest if you appear frequently in the media, perhaps primarily social media.

It's not uncommon to get into trouble if you tick all the boxes, so to speak. You're doing renovations at home and using somewhat shady labor, perhaps running a successful business of your own or managing a larger company, having expensive items at home, nice paintings on the walls, expensive rugs on the floor, an expensive car on the driveway, etc. Maybe a Franz jäger in the storage. The workers might have friends who like to dip their fingers in the cookie jar, word spreads, you know how it can sound, "we were at this guy's house....etc.".

 

[leifa.k]

On our street, those without alarms experienced break-ins. At the cabin in Småland, 20 miles away, I have something as simple as Alfred with notifications, like SMS. After the paved road, there's a 2 1/2 km gravel road to a gate, and then it's 500m to the cabin. Nowadays, I drive a Subaru, so I don't keep the road plowed, which means most vans won't get far. If I receive an alert on my phone, people will head out and park their car sideways to block the thieves' escape route. I jump in the car with my two dogs (they can track, and one is very effective, while the other is still learning) and from there we see where it leads... This, as you understand, places great demands on the dog handler, namely me, but honestly, I don't care if the crooks/thieves get slightly roughed up. That's how simple it is.

 

[Davion]

Why can't everyone who has trouble understanding the concept of question-answer just respond to the thread creator's questions and then place their personal reflections or opinions on what is necessary elsewhere? It's incredible how hard it can be to be factual.

To answer: the easiest must be, as a couple of others have said, to pour 10-15cm of concrete with coarse reinforcement on the outside and have an extra door solution inside, it doesn't take up much space.

A small generator with fuel indoors that can be started if external power supply stops can be advantageously installed.

 

[@ndreas]

Absolutely, you are completely right @S_O_B. There are lots of shortcomings if we analyze every conceivable scenario (which I gladly do), but I believe I have a better chance of making it than someone who has never even considered the thought. I want to avoid running around looking for the phone in that situation. Just as quickly as possible, get into the room. It's also common for home alarms abroad to have smoke machines to make it more difficult for an intruder. There are lots of fun things to consider

Have you considered moving to a safer area?

 

[raderat]

Have you considered moving to a safer area?

It might not be so easy to move when you have your whole life in a certain place? And should one really have to accept the situation and give up and move? Then you might wonder which area you mean that is protected from meeting the same future. Home robberies, by the way, often do not occur in areas that would be classified as criminal ghettos, but in completely normal middle-class areas. So should those be avoided to live in as well?

 

[raderat]

You say "we". Have you involved your family in this paranoia?

New week, new brutal home robberies. I lost count of how many happened last week, of those who even dared to report them, that is.
https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/krim/vd-ranad-i-hemmet-tvingades-oppna-kassaskap/

Or as Thomas_Blekinge would say: hehe, paranoia, hehe.

 

[Byggdjuret]

New week, new brutal home robberies. I lost count of how many occurred last week, of those who even dared to report them, that is.
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Or as Thomas_Blekinge would say: hehehe, paranoia, hehehe.

Well, or you can do like I do, wonder how big the problem really is? Expressen isn't exactly known for never exaggerating things.
200% increase in assault cases in byhåla sounds awful but if you instead say 6 people, it doesn't sound so bad. 6 people in Stockholm is nothing.
Your article refers to 1 poor family where the man was a well-known businessman. As long as you're not making a lot of money and like to flaunt it, you don't need to worry. Not much more.
But a Panic room? Would it have helped? Better to review the perimeter security.
Don't read Expressen; it's not a healthy newspaper.

 

[Markarbetaren]

Well, or you do like me, wondering how big the problem really is? Expressen is not exactly known for never exaggerating things. A 200% increase in assault cases in a small town sounds terrible but if instead you say 6 people, it doesn't sound so bad. 6 people in Stockholm is nothing. Your article refers to 1 poor family where the man was a known businessman. As long as you don't make a lot of money and don't flaunt it, you don't have to worry. Not much more. But Panic room? Would it have helped? Better to review the perimeter security. Don't read Expressen, it's not a healthy newspaper

Of course, everyone sees this from their perspective. I suspect you don't have a Ferrari or live in a villa worth an 8-digit amount. Unfortunately, segregation is increasing in society, many of those who don't have want what those who have, have. We have imported quite large amounts of crime in the last 20 years. Sweden is at the top in the crime index, Ukraine is a safer country than Sweden, Ukraine! Those who don't understand what's happening probably need to remove their blinders! https://www.reddit.com/r/Sveriges_p...e_ligger_på_plats_1_i_europeiska_crime_index/

 

[Mikael_L]

Which stone have you been living under the past few years? Just last week, three of Expressen's five top news stories were about families being targeted by armed robbers in their homes. In many places, this type of robbery has replaced traditional burglaries since under the threat of a gun, you can have someone immediately hand over their car keys and valuables instead of having to go around and rummage. Then there's also the category that breaks in and after a while discovers someone is home. Often, a knife or other weapon is pulled then.

I'm not saying everyone needs a safe room but if you've missed this trend, one wonders a bit.

Yeah, what the heck, maybe I should start locking the door at home, at least if I'm gone for more than a few hours...

Regarding the thread's original question, it seems quite well answered now. But if there are more tips to share, please do, my post can be disregarded then.

 

[raderat]

Well, or you can do as I do, consider how big the problem really is? Expressen isn't exactly known for never exaggerating things.
A 200% increase in assault cases in byhåla sounds terrible, but if you say 6 people instead, it doesn't sound so bad. 6 people in Stockholm is nothing.
Your article refers to 1 poor family where the man was a well-known businessman. As long as you're not making a lot of money and flaunting it, you don't need to worry. Not much more.
But Panic room? Would it have helped? Better to review the perimeter protection.
Don't read Expressen; it's not a healthy newspaper

Classic attempt to downplay the whole thing just because I happened to include a link to Expressen, as if this would make it less true. So the reason the media now writes daily about brutal home invasions is because they suddenly decided to blow it out of proportion, not because there's been an increase? It will be interesting to see your source for this claim. Do you also have a source that the robberies stop if you stop reading Expressen? Instead, show which part was exaggerated in the article I referred to. After all, you're not just throwing out baseless accusations without factual arguments?

You are welcome to dislike Expressen or other media, but the information in the article was in this case taken directly from the police's incident reporting as a fresh example to show that what you deny actually happens daily in many people’s immediate vicinity, even if it feels distant for you.

Additionally, starting to throw around made-up numbers to prove your own theory isn't a completely serious way to reason either.

Whether the OP's construction is reasonable or proportionate to the threat hasn't even been commented on by me. We don't know anything about his situation, and we don't need to speculate; he just wanted construction advice. I've never claimed that everyone should walk around worrying about this, but when some of you come with mocking posts as if all this were delusions, I feel it's necessary to present some facts.
And no, it's not just wealthy businessmen who have flaunted their cash that are affected; it's often completely normal families who are chosen at random because someone quickly needs a car or fast money.

By the way, this wasn't the only home invasion in Stockholm today. In the other case, 3-4 knife robbers forced their way into an apartment. Probably because the apartment owner in Bredäng flaunted how rich he is...?

 

[raderat]

Yeah, what the hell, maybe I should start locking the door at home, at least if I'm away for more than a few hours...

Funny that you can joke about it. The affected families with children who were sleeping and got a visit from robbers pointing guns at them for some quick cash can surely see the humor in it. If it's in Expressen, it didn't even happen, I just learned that.