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Suggestions for reinforcing an existing built Lecawall against burglary?
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Hello, we are selling a product called Teknopur, it is a 2-component paint product. It does require special equipment to paint with the product as it dries in 30 seconds. It should be applied in a layer of 3 mm on both sides of the leca stone, then you might have to work hard to get through. If you check on YouTube, there are examples to see.
Bricked up a place that should withstand a car at 40-50 km/h and small-caliber fire, double brick wall with the headers outward. The ingen-jöjen had concluded that it would be sufficient. Other walls that were to be burglar-proof were framed up and then covered with osb-2mm sheet metal- drywall.
Regarding having a mobile on constant charging... I would worry more about fire than theft. Better to have a fully charged power bank (yes, they do eventually discharge, but you can have another one in the house and swap them once a quarter or so). Like several others have mentioned, I believe more in a wired connection to a siren on the roof.
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One should consider the fire risk. So double the plasterboard. Prop up the ceiling.
Agreed. Visible equipment signals more that this house has something to protect. I would rather say that it will attract curious thieves and local talents...S S_B_O said:Don't want to scare you. But if you have all that visible protective equipment in the form of gates, etc., then one might imagine that someone trying to break in would use a jammer. Then the mobile might become a weak link in the security thinking because it will not have contact with the mobile network.
Discretion is key.
As mentioned many times above. What is your threat scenario?
How can a potential perpetrator determine what's behind your wall covering?
How do you know it's 15 cm of leca and not an armored metal construction?
Do they carry an extra heavy sledgehammer just in case...?
Today's burglars are triggered by information that is "out there" and generally known...
Social media...
So what have you revealed?
Etc... and it goes on...!
An arm's length away from trouble is my advice...
How can a potential perpetrator determine what's behind your wall covering?
How do you know it's 15 cm of leca and not an armored metal construction?
Do they carry an extra heavy sledgehammer just in case...?
Today's burglars are triggered by information that is "out there" and generally known...
Social media...
So what have you revealed?
Etc... and it goes on...!
An arm's length away from trouble is my advice...
123mrVoodoo said:
I would place the sheet metal on the outside, or on what is/becomes the "attack side". Then it acts more like a tough membrane and is incredibly/impossibly difficult to break through. If you place it on the inside, it will be much easier to just smash in the sheet metal once you have crumbled some of the lecablocks.
123mrVoodoo said:
It's been a while since I designed a wall for protection classes, but in those wall types, we always had the steel sheet on the protected side. I think it's because if someone tries to break in silently (for example, where you share a wall with another tenant), you shouldn't have time to quietly dismantle the sheet and then quickly break through the rest of the wall.
But if we say that the robber has a grinder and sledgehammer, I imagine it should be quicker to break into a room with the sheet on the outside. Then you just "quickly" cut a sufficiently large hole in the sheet, and then break down the leca blocks.
With the sheet on the inside, you first have to punch a sufficiently large hole (with the sheet holding back from the inside) and clean it enough to reach with the grinder.
If the sheet is "glued" to the leca blocks so it can't be lifted off from the outside, that's probably another story. But I'm no expert.
EDIT: Gyproc writes in its design handbook that "The side of the wall with reinforced protection should be facing inward towards the room (far from the attacker)." But this likely pertains more to walls "in society" and not for saferooms in someone's home.
But if we say that the robber has a grinder and sledgehammer, I imagine it should be quicker to break into a room with the sheet on the outside. Then you just "quickly" cut a sufficiently large hole in the sheet, and then break down the leca blocks.
With the sheet on the inside, you first have to punch a sufficiently large hole (with the sheet holding back from the inside) and clean it enough to reach with the grinder.
If the sheet is "glued" to the leca blocks so it can't be lifted off from the outside, that's probably another story. But I'm no expert.
EDIT: Gyproc writes in its design handbook that "The side of the wall with reinforced protection should be facing inward towards the room (far from the attacker)." But this likely pertains more to walls "in society" and not for saferooms in someone's home.
I think, as someone mentioned before, securing the house with burglary-delay measures is essential. The idea is that the perpetrator has to get past various preventive measures before they are inside. The first obstacle is fences, gates, the outer perimeter, relatively easy to bypass with a car, climb over, etc. But see the area between the house and the fence as the "moat." There you have cameras (which admittedly don't help much as most bandits wear masks, even when Corona is no longer a factor), but the cameras should cover all areas so you cannot cross the moat without receiving a notification on your phone, so they're more like motion detectors. Personally, I have no threat but have had intruders in the garden a few times, and I have cameras that start recording simultaneously with LED spotlights on the house that light up when someone enters the garden. I use these with a timer so they don't light up the entire neighborhood before 9 PM.
When the intruder is in the moat, you know because the notification on your phone isn't random. Then you also know how much time you have before the intruder is inside the house. The house should naturally be secured with a security door, windows with unbreakable glass, etc. But at this stage, you press the panic alarm. I have a blue strobe light with a siren mounted at the top of the facade, so you must have a ladder to take it down. Sabotage-protected, of course, so it triggers the alarm if taken down. The remote control for the alarm is on the keychain I keep in my pocket unless I'm sleeping. Meanwhile, you call the police. In most cases, the blue strobe light combined with the siren makes the intruder leave the property.
While calling the police, you make your way to the safe room. If the intruder has jammers and such, which the local hooligans probably don't have, the blue strobe light and siren will likely make the neighbor call 911.
To take it a step further, you get a license, a Glock or similar, stored in the safe room in a locked cabinet according to regulations. Smoke generators are also an excellent idea, best activated from inside the safe room. Unfortunately, this might prevent the intruder from finding their way out. But sure, you can secure yourself and wait until the intruder is inside before activating them so the intruder must back out again.
Additionally, one can joke about this and think it's silly, etc. But not everyone lives in a cottage out in the sticks with a CRT TV from '95 as their most expensive possession. Today, when you can look up almost everything about a person's finances, car ownership, etc., with just a few clicks online, you are quite vulnerable if you stand out from the crowd. It's not entirely uncommon for wealthy people today to buy a condo they are registered at but live somewhere else instead. I know the CEO of one of Sweden's largest export companies is registered at his 60m² condo in central Gothenburg, but he doesn't live there. One of Sweden's wealthiest registered at his office due to the threat, but the leftist media found out, so he was reported for population registration offenses. Now he has a hidden address instead.
When the intruder is in the moat, you know because the notification on your phone isn't random. Then you also know how much time you have before the intruder is inside the house. The house should naturally be secured with a security door, windows with unbreakable glass, etc. But at this stage, you press the panic alarm. I have a blue strobe light with a siren mounted at the top of the facade, so you must have a ladder to take it down. Sabotage-protected, of course, so it triggers the alarm if taken down. The remote control for the alarm is on the keychain I keep in my pocket unless I'm sleeping. Meanwhile, you call the police. In most cases, the blue strobe light combined with the siren makes the intruder leave the property.
While calling the police, you make your way to the safe room. If the intruder has jammers and such, which the local hooligans probably don't have, the blue strobe light and siren will likely make the neighbor call 911.
To take it a step further, you get a license, a Glock or similar, stored in the safe room in a locked cabinet according to regulations. Smoke generators are also an excellent idea, best activated from inside the safe room. Unfortunately, this might prevent the intruder from finding their way out. But sure, you can secure yourself and wait until the intruder is inside before activating them so the intruder must back out again.
Additionally, one can joke about this and think it's silly, etc. But not everyone lives in a cottage out in the sticks with a CRT TV from '95 as their most expensive possession. Today, when you can look up almost everything about a person's finances, car ownership, etc., with just a few clicks online, you are quite vulnerable if you stand out from the crowd. It's not entirely uncommon for wealthy people today to buy a condo they are registered at but live somewhere else instead. I know the CEO of one of Sweden's largest export companies is registered at his 60m² condo in central Gothenburg, but he doesn't live there. One of Sweden's wealthiest registered at his office due to the threat, but the leftist media found out, so he was reported for population registration offenses. Now he has a hidden address instead.
On the other hand, it's easy to saw through even with a handsaw, provided you don't hit a reinforcement bar...A Alexn72 said:
Not my problem that more than 50% of Sweden's population vote for the same parties that have created "these problems" over and over again. You get what you ask for... and if you're blind, you have to face the consequences. Those who see where it's heading move to higher ground while others remain at the water's edge.R bossebyggarn said: