Suggestions for reinforcing an existing built Lecawall against burglary?

[Trulli]

An electric strike plate with an electronic passage in the form of a tag that you store in a small board next to it. You can wallpaper over the tag sensor. No handle is needed, and you can mount a large mirror over the entire door leaf. Just make sure to choose a large enough frame that you can grip to open. From the inside, you have a handle as usual. However, the casing that forms the frame will not work. You'll need to inject a suitable mass into the entire joint, which is then covered by the mirror. Amazingly, I can actually assist with the aforementioned door if you want to move from fantasy to reality

Haha...yes, I've already decided to do this. You have a lot of great ideas that I like I hadn't planned to have a handle at all. The door is always "open" but shut closed. The idea was to lock it from the inside. It's important to get in quickly. I'm considering what's best, hidden without casing or using casing.

 

[Trulli]

I don't know you or your threats, but you should probably turn to professionals if you feel a serious need for a saferoom.

That said, this seems to give quite a stable result: [media]

Well, I don't think so. What's wrong with improving security and being prepared in case something happens? Why do people have alarms? I'm just taking it a step further.
As I wrote earlier;
"Now, it's not that we have a threat against us, rather that we could have a somewhat elevated risk of being exposed, but above all because I like technology, a bit of unusual stuff, and not least like being prepared".

 

[Jonatan79]

Maybe a bunker is safer?

 

[Trulli]

I think it will be difficult to get mobile coverage inside a steel-reinforced room? And then you want a solution that protects against being smoked out with tear gas or similar. So how will you handle fresh air? Every pipe penetration for cables, etc. would be a weak point but perhaps low probability.

You make a good point about mobile coverage.
As for tear gas, etc., there are no penetrations in the walls. I have a solution for fresh air but don't think it's a real problem. I'm not planning to sit in there for several hours straight. As you say, low probability.

 

[Trulli]

I can understand a desire to protect against "random robbers." But if you have something that motivates a planned robbery, where someone actually decides to start breaking through a wall, they will succeed no matter what you do.

Of course, but it's all about buying time.

But in that case it's about a few hundred kilos of gold you have at home, or your large collection of original Picassos. The type of robbers who target a regular family don't want to be there for more than a few seconds without having full control of what you're doing. They can't know if the police will be there within one or 20 minutes just today.

Exactly, I guess if something happens it's suburban gangs or other riffraff. Not specialized art thieves.

I think you can get pretty far with an alarm connected to a central monitoring station. A robber won't stick around if the panic alarm goes off. Pure burglary alarms against thieves don't always work. They might decide to keep searching for a few minutes even after the alarm has gone off.

Good but not enough. If I can protect my family from robbery with a safe room in a simple and cheap way, then it's a good solution.

I'm convinced that most people who have been robbed have thought that this would never happen to them.

 

[Trulli]

Bunker might be safer?

Yes, and while I'm at it, maybe I should build in pitfalls, hidden traps, and electricity in the door handles.

 

[EI30-SaC]

You solve the mobile coverage with an external antenna from the roof down to the room.

 

[Fällebyggarn]

If it needs to be approved by the insurance company, there are specific rules for how the wall must be reinforced (with metal).

Can you get additional insurance for threats from anti-tank weapons? You don't really want to have hard metal on the outside... and get penetration from the HEAT charge.

 

[Trulli]

Honestly, you should seek help with mental health services.

But come on. You have no idea who I am, where I live, or my background, if we've experienced anything or if there are acquaintances around us. But above all, you obviously haven't read the thread, since I have written why I am doing this... sigh.

This goes for more jokesters here who obviously cannot answer the thread's question, but have so much free time to comment a bunch of nonsense.

I have received the answers I wanted regarding the brick wall. Now we can end this thread.

 

[Jonatan79]

Please, update the thread with pictures when you start building. It is highly interesting and exciting to see such a unique project

 

[Alexn72]

If you have it airtight, I would make sure the oxygen is enough for the worst-case scenario... But if someone wants to cause harm... what prevents them from setting the house on fire... And how do you handle that?

 

[Stuff]

Haha...yes, I have already decided to do this. You have lots of great ideas that I like I hadn't planned to have any kind of lock at all. The door is always "open" but pushed close. Locking is done from the inside was the idea. It's important to quickly get in.
I'm wondering what is best, concealed without trim or go with trim.

But think a bit about other scenarios too. For example, it's conceivable that children play there and accidentally lock themselves in. Then it's typically bad with a secure door that can only be opened from one side. Maybe you can have a code lock from the outside? With the keypad hidden and not directly adjacent to the door.

Now I don't know what kind of threat you have, but the whole situation feels very unlikely. I think you could get very far with your existing leca wall in combination with being able to trigger a loud alarm siren from the room, both inside and outside the house. Then the burglars will not be comfortable staying and hacking through a wall. Because you do have neighbors who can respond to a siren, right?

 

[Nyfiknast]

But come on. You have no idea who I am, where I live, or my background, if we have experienced something or acquaintances in our vicinity. But above all, you obviously haven't read the thread, since I have explained why I am doing this... sigh.
It applies to more jokers here who obviously can't answer the thread's question but have so much free time to comment on a lot of nonsense.

I have received the answers I wanted regarding the brick wall. Now we can close this thread.

Embed a reinforcement mesh in the wall; that should be inconvenient for those trying to break in.
Have a box with some gas masks in case they try to smoke you out.
An internet cable pulled in and a computer in case they have signal jammers so you can still make calls.
Should anyone manage to get in, you must have an element of surprise, like a super strong spotlight aimed at the door, a crossbow ready, etc.
Sirens and flashing warning lights controlled by a switch from the room.
The question is whether you all have time to get to the shelter if someone breaches the gate with an old SUV in the middle of the night and 5 people jump out, throw stones at a window, and climb in?

 

[Diablito]

A few months ago, I demolished several indoor lecablocks. Those with a space behind them were completely torn down in a few minutes with a sledgehammer. The one that was built right against a double brick wall took longer but was completely torn down in maybe 20 minutes.

Can't you build a mold on the outside of the walls and cast 100 mm concrete? Drill some threaded rods through the leca blocks that are cast into the new slab and reinforce it properly to get a good hold on the existing wall. Then intruders would need to have a proper jackhammer or saw to get in. If you attach the door frame with good concrete screws from Hilti and plaster over the gap with real concrete filler (or set a mold and pour concrete into the gap), then you're probably safe inside.

 

[Jonatan79]

Have the burglars started filling their toolbox with a sledgehammer, angle grinder, and pry bar? Did I miss something?