Shit wood !!!

[Thomas Lundquist]

I'm getting fed up with this crap.

Honestly, you carpenters out there. How much do you tolerate? When do you send the junk back and ask them to send OK goods?

Here is a 45x70, 4.80 long. Major wane on half the timber.

Would you have sent it back?

Then I also received several major warped pieces and some that would make good rocking chair runners.

A carpenter sorts out the lumber he needs as much as possible, unless he's doing formwork.

That is secondary lumber "V" that you've bought/received. If you've paid for the highest quality for rough-sawn, it's wrong, but I doubt you have.

But that's how it goes in the price chase days, lumberyards buy crap wood and sell it to DIYers like 2x3 without disclosing the quality.

Good thing there are professional lumberyards for the rest of us.

 

[Mikael_L]

Now you can go and pull something old over yourself, Thomas.

You have no damn clue where I bought the timber, so you can stop putting your own wishful thinking in others' mouths.

The lumberyard that delivers to me supplies all the local construction companies with their boards and studs.

 

[Thomas Lundquist]

It's the lumberyard you should tell to cover itself with something old. If it's a slightly larger lumberyard, they have two qualities of rough sawn 2x3. The piece you are showing is the inferior one and I don't understand the problem if you bought that quality.
If you buy second-rate, second-rate is delivered.

 

[Mikael_L]

Yes, it's crappy of them to pick up and send the junk that's on top and already rejected by others.
I've never specified a grade, but they roughly know what I use the lumber for.

The lumberyard in question always has only classA lumber, usually 120mm wide and larger, so I practically never have any problems there.

In any case, they should come and pick up this shoddy junk. Then, I probably need to have a talk with them about the quality I need.

 

[Gabbe1]

But that's how it is in times of price hunting, lumberyards buy in poor quality lumber and sell it to DIYers like 2x3 without reporting the quality.

Lucky that there are professional lumberyards for the rest of us.

My experience is that the lumberyards sell the same quality to both professionals and DIYers, where I buy my lumber several professionals also shop. Furthermore, my father-in-law works as a carpenter at Peab and it often happens that they send back whole bundles that are not good enough, which also indicates that everyone gets the same quality regardless of how big a customer you are.

 

[cecar33]

My experience is that lumberyards sell the same quality to both professionals and DIY enthusiasts, at the place where I buy my wood, many professionals also shop.
Furthermore, my father-in-law works as a carpenter at Peab and they often send back whole bundles that aren't good enough, which also indicates that everyone gets the same quality regardless of how big a customer you are.

Yes, that's exactly how it is. For partition walls, steel studs are used, and where, for example, a door frame is to be placed, there is timber adapted to fit into the steel profile. It's advantageous to use ceiling steel profiles if you want a smooth ceiling that doesn't crack.

 

[Elkludde]

Have never seen or been informed about different qualities regardless of which lumber yard it concerns. The problem lies rather in the fact that the BIG builders are not as careful as the home enthusiasts. They instead buy a little extra that the customer has to pay for, what doesn't make the cut goes in the container.

 

[Thomas Lundquist]

My experience is that the lumberyards sell the same quality to both professionals and DIYers, where I buy my wood several professionals also shop.
Furthermore, my father-in-law works as a carpenter at Peab and it often happens that they send back entire bundles that are not adequate, which also suggests that everyone gets the same quality regardless of how big of a customer they are.

I have experience as both a lumberyard worker and a builder, so I'm not making anything up.
Peab is not professional in my eyes, what I mean by professionals are smaller construction firms that have private consumers as customers.

 

[Thomas Lundquist]

Have never seen or been informed about different qualities regardless of which lumberyard it concerns. The problem is rather that the BIG builders are not as meticulous as the DIY enthusiasts. They buy a little extra that the customer has to pay for, and what doesn't make the cut goes into the container.

Then it might be time for you to take a closer look the next time you're at a lumberyard, and not like K-rauta.

I shop almost daily and have both seen and been informed about different qualities when it comes to something like 2x3 raw wood.

Strange!

 

[pbengtsson]

Apprentices often endure the most peculiar jokes; one seems to be asking about the professional quality at the lumber yard. I wonder if Thomas caught that perspective as well?

Of course, the lumber is graded in different qualities, but not in the classes of DIY|professional.

 

[Thomas Lundquist]

Apprentices usually have to endure the most peculiar jokes, one seems to be asking about professional quality at the lumberyard, I wonder if Thomas also got the viewpoint?

Of course, the lumber is classified in different qualities, but not in the categories home amateur|professional.

Apprentice is/was not at a lumberyard.
Do you have experiences of lumberyard work?

We were warned about the viewpoint before we went out to the construction site, but I wonder if bengtsson got a slanted/twisted viewpoint.

We are aware that there are different qualities, and the question is what price a lumberyard offers when the customer wants a bargain price.

 

[kvistarn2]

At work, there are usually about 1-2 pieces per package on average that are slightly imperfect or too crooked, depending on the sorting as well. C30 is almost always perfect, C24 has the occasional piece, and C18 has a few more per package. If you go to Byggmax and similar places, almost half of the timber tends to look like what we discard, which might be because people pick out the good pieces and the stores keep the scrap.

 

[andersmc]

Then we are aware that there are different qualities, and the question is what price a lumberyard will give when the customer wants a pressed price.

This is very interesting information. So in addition to the "usual" quality classes C18, C24 etc, is there another, somewhat secret classification that only timber sellers and certain professionals are aware of?

Are those classes called something, so you know what to ask for?

 

[Daniellinus]

Hello all experienced lumberyard guys!
Could someone enlighten a happy amateur about the different wood quality grades that exist? Is it the same "scale" for all wood, even pressure-treated (C18, 24, 30 as Anders mentioned)?

I'm thinking of ordering pressure-treated decking of the Prima variety. Is Prima a quality grade or just a name to make DIYers think it's good quality?

I would be very happy to become a bit more knowledgeable before ordering as it seems cumbersome to return a bunch of wood or live with warped boards and knots.

 

[Mikael_L]

at work, there are usually maybe 1-2 pieces per package on average that have a bit of an edge or are too crooked, depends on the sorting, c30 almost always perfect, c24 a single piece, and c18 a few more per package, when you go to byggmax and the like, almost half (almost) of the timber looks like stuff we discard, could be that people pick out the good stuff and the stores keep the scrap.

What do you work with then? Roof truss manufacturing? There aren't many places otherwise that exclusively work with construction-grade timber such as C14 -> C30.