Non-toxic OSB and chipboard wanted!

[Odjuret]

Yes, but then you get other problems. For example, cost... And skewed floors over time.

And "as few chemicals as possible" is not necessarily the best strategy. Preservatives, etc., prevent many natural processes that create even worse toxins if left unchecked (mold is a big culprit here, for example).

And it's interesting to read the safety data sheet for Falu Rödfärg, compared to one of Flügger's wall paints, for example. According to the data sheet, Falu red is more dangerous... It contains lead, for example. A metal that we are much more restrictive with today than before. On the other hand, Flügger's data sheet has more "data missing." So it's even hard to assess the risks based on available data. It's not obvious that Falu Rödfärg is better. (I myself choose to avoid Falu red because I don't want it on my clothes...) And it's naturally far from certain that one can say the difference is so significant that it makes a difference. It probably doesn't. But that's a guess.

So, as usual, no matter how you turn, you're stuck with your behind in the back. Life is, after all, 100% fatal.

I didn't know that Falu red was so bad! Then I retract the painting with Falu red.... I’ve learned something new

 

[Kallebo]

I thought that råspont in my naivety was just regular planed wood with tongue and groove... I didn't know they put a bunch of chemicals in it.....

All wood contains chemicals that are released over time. They naturally occur in nature to protect trees from pests....

There was a thread or article about a couple who built a house where all the wood was encapsulated because they were allergic to substances in wood

Here is an article about the same couple: http://kemikaliedetektiven.se/wordpress/2013/12/26/bostadsbygge-utan-tra/

 

[Robert-san01]

Gyproc Habito might be an alternative to OSB + plasterboard? Probably more expensive than both combined, but you save half the work and a layer of screws.

 

[Odjuret]

All timber contains chemicals that are released over time. They naturally occur in nature to protect trees from pests....

There was a thread or article about a couple who built a house where all the wood was encapsulated because they were allergic to the substances in wood.

Here is an article about the same couple: [link]

That was just the most serious page I've seen in a long time. By the way, the article you referred to became quite embarrassing for that couple because it turned out to be psychological... Moreover, they chose to encapsulate all the wood with some chemical thing that no one knows how dangerous it is. But if raw wood is dangerous, why don't you warn against OSB or chipboard? How should we build our houses? You can't mention plastic or concrete because those things are also said to contain toxins...
But regardless, remember life is dangerous! No matter what you do, you will die...

 

[Klicka]

Skip OSB if you want to be sure. Use double layers of gypsum instead.

 

[Kallebo]

But if tongue and groove boards are dangerous, why don't you warn about OSB or chipboard? How should we build our houses? You can't mention plastic or concrete because these items are also said to contain toxins...
But regardless, remember life is life-threatening! No matter what you do, you will die...

My point was that all construction materials are a bit dangerous. So it doesn't help to skip the chipboard.

 

[Robert-san01]

The fact that there is turpentine in the raw wood is not because it has been impregnated with it; it is naturally in the wood. So there is definitely turpentine in plywood, OSB, and chipboard, as they contain wood.

I remember when I was a child, we lived near a sawmill. The stream that runs from that area was stone-dead. If you watered the grass with water from the stream, it would die too. It was phenol/phenols that leached out when watering the timber, which was the cause. So just because wood is "natural" doesn't mean it is a non-toxic material.

 

[Odjuret]

My point was that all building materials are somewhat dangerous. So it doesn't help to skip the chipboard

Then you didn't get your point across.... I'm sorry, but I didn't follow at all... On the other hand, tongue-and-groove must be much better than OSB....
Stone, does it work to build a house with? or does it contain lots of toxins? It would probably be very cold, as there's no way to insulate. But you won't need windows....

 

[Odjuret]

The fact that there is turpentine in the raw timber is not something it has been impregnated with, it is natural in the wood. So there is definitely turpentine in plywood, OSB, and chipboard since they contain wood.

I remember when I was a child, we lived near a sawmill. The stream that flows from that area was stone-dead. If you watered the grass with water from the stream, it would die too. It was Phenol/Phenols that leached out when the timber was watered that caused it. So just because wood is "Natural" doesn't mean it's a non-toxic material.

I wonder how many have died from living in wooden houses... Or rather how many have gotten cancer because of wooden houses? Isn't it all very typical of the time we live in? People seem to want to find toxins everywhere. But how toxic is wood?
But probably it is just as well to hang oneself directly... Since everything is dangerous!

 

[Kalle_Kiander]

Thank you for your answers!

I think we'll go with formaldehyde-free OSB behind the drywall where we're going to hang heavy items. For the rest, we'll use double drywall. Economical and health-safe.

Any thoughts on that?

 

[Robert-san01]

I would consider the Habito board.

 

[Robert-san01]

Wonder how many have died from living in wooden houses.... Or rather how many have gotten cancer because of wooden houses?
Isn't it all very typical of the time we live in. People seem to want to find toxins everywhere. But how toxic is wood?
But it's probably just as well to hang yourself directly.... Since everything is dangerous!

Not to mention all electromagnetic radiation from electricity, computers, Wi-Fi, mobiles, etc. Then we mustn't forget all the chemicals that can leach into the water pipes!

The Teflon in the frying pan is certainly not healthy either.

Best to get a tinfoil hat.

 

[Kalle_Kiander]

I would consider the Habito board.

Interesting! Anyone with experience with Habito?

Found a price at Beijer:

GIPSSKIVA GHE 13 HABITO
12.5 x 2400 x 900 mm
213.80 kr/sheet

Gyproc Habito - plasterboards with revolutionary fastening strength. Recommended load, with a standard wood screw, is 40 kg. With Habito, you get a very strong system solution for interior walls, which in many cases can replace OSB and plywood, with high fire safety and excellent sound insulation as a result. The board is cut and installed like regular plasterboards.

 

[Peter2400]

Interesting! Does anyone have experience with Habito? Expensive?

It costs about the same as plaster and OSB combined, but you save on screws and half the work time.
So I think it sounds like an easy choice.

 

[Odjuret]

Not to mention all the electromagnetic radiation from electricity, data, Wi-Fi, mobiles, etc. Then we mustn't forget all the chemicals that can leach into the water pipes!

The Teflon in the frying pan is surely not healthy either.

Best to get a tin foil hat.

I've just ordered a tin foil hat... It was something new material that contained something that was supposed to be extra good