Mount box in plaster wall

[Tacobob]

Hello!

I'm renovating a kitchen and need to prepare the installation of junction boxes so that a qualified electrician can run the electricity there. The wife wants the outlets in a specific spot (of course), and there are no studs to attach the box. Is there a clever trick to secure the box properly without having to remove the panel? I would prefer not to cut away a bit of the drywall and then have to patch it up...

 

[Cancerman_777]

What I'm thinking is; how do you plan to run cable/conduit to the box if you can't access behind the drywall?

 

[D09]

Is that the kind you hunt, you think?

 

[Tacobob]

What I'm thinking about is; how are you planning to run the cable/pipe to the box if you can't access behind the drywall?

Thinking that it will be easiest to use a cable that runs under the countertop in the cabinets, instead of running pipes in the wall.

 

[Location]

Thinking that it will be easiest to run the cable under the countertop in the cabinets, instead of installing conduits in the wall..

If you think that way, you don't have to screw in boxes either? Just install surface-mounted outlets where it fits and staple the cable up to them.

Have you really thought this through? If I were you, and still spending money on a new kitchen, I wouldn't skimp on redoing the drywall so that you can have the electricity installed and well-planned with separate circuits for the outlets.

 

[Cancerman_777]

I think it will be easier to run a cable under the countertop in the cabinets, rather than running pipes in the wall..

Aha. I see.

 

[Tacobob]

If you think that way, you don't need to install boxes either? Just place surface-mounted outlets where it fits and clip the cable to them.

Have you really thought this through? If I were you, and was already spending on a new kitchen, I wouldn't skimp on re-plastering so that you can have the electricals recessed and well-planned with separate groups for the outlets.

I have zero knowledge about the electrical aspect unfortunately. It's very possible that what I'm thinking may not even be feasible, which is probably why I'm reaching out here The plan is to splice into an existing wall outlet (let the electrician handle that). From here, the cable will be attached to the skirting board and hidden behind the cabinet frames. The cable will go up and through a flexible conduit just before the countertop and will terminate in a renovation box. I agree that it's not the prettiest solution, but it's a solution that is neither dangerous nor in any way incorrect (?). The only difference is that the cable is on the outside instead of inside the wall (except right by the box). Should work, right?

I should add that I wouldn't do/didn't do anything without the electrician's approval.

 

[Cancerman_777]

Have no clue regarding the actual electricity unfortunately. It is very possible that it may not even be possible to do it the way I intended, that's probably why I'm reaching out here I suppose
The plan is to splice into an existing wall socket (how the electrician handles that). From there, a cable is run that is attached to the baseboard and hidden behind the cabinet frames. The cable goes up and into a flexible conduit right before the countertop, and ends in an old work box. I agree that it's not the prettiest solution, but a solution that is neither dangerous nor in any way incorrect (?). The only difference is that the cable is on the outside instead of inside the wall (except right at the box). Should work, right?

I can add that I won't do/haven't done anything without the approval from the electrician.

If the socket is surface-mounted, then I think it is allowed to do as you described, but if it is recessed, then I am extremely doubtful.

Quite honestly, I would definitely have replaced the drywall too and in the process also done a proper installation of the new outlets. Alternatively, got the wife to understand that she has to live with the sockets in the places where they are now.