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Material like water but possible to paint
Hello everyone,
I'm not at all interested in putting tiles on my bathroom walls and above all, I just want them MATTE painted. And maybe with a bit of shading between light and dark gray. The problem, however, is that you have to use glossy paint to get an approved waterproof seal in the bathroom. But then I heard that you can first complete the waterproof seal and then put whatever you want on top of it. So the idea is to put up panels that are maybe 1m wide and 2m high along all the walls, and these panels are then painted with matte paint. I have spoken to painters and have been given the go-ahead that they can make sure their paint withstands water from, for example, the shower.
BUT the question is if anyone knows a material these panels can be made of that is not affected by water? For example, an MDF would swell from the water and paint won't adhere to a wet room panel. So the question is if anyone knows a material that could be painted on that is WATER resistant? Nowadays there are so many materials and maybe someone knows of something?
Thanks in advance!
I'm not at all interested in putting tiles on my bathroom walls and above all, I just want them MATTE painted. And maybe with a bit of shading between light and dark gray. The problem, however, is that you have to use glossy paint to get an approved waterproof seal in the bathroom. But then I heard that you can first complete the waterproof seal and then put whatever you want on top of it. So the idea is to put up panels that are maybe 1m wide and 2m high along all the walls, and these panels are then painted with matte paint. I have spoken to painters and have been given the go-ahead that they can make sure their paint withstands water from, for example, the shower.
BUT the question is if anyone knows a material these panels can be made of that is not affected by water? For example, an MDF would swell from the water and paint won't adhere to a wet room panel. So the question is if anyone knows a material that could be painted on that is WATER resistant? Nowadays there are so many materials and maybe someone knows of something?
Thanks in advance!
Aquapanel indoor is available that withstands water and can be painted on, you can read more here http://byggsystem.knaufdanogips.se/xpdf/aquapanel_indoor_rev2007.pdf and here it describes all the products in their system http://byggsystem.knaufdanogips.se/xpdf/assortment-aquapanel-indoor-2006.pdf
I have just painted a bathroom with Alcro Tät. And yes, it is shiny, but not at all as glossy as I had thought it would be. The experience is that it is quite matte.
A little thought. Painted waterproofing does not have the same vapor resistance as, for instance, the foil under tiles. And I understand that it is okay since the water quickly runs off and the surface can dry up. The question is what happens if you place boards over it and moisture gets in between. If you use Aquapanel, then it is a waterproofing layer in itself. So you get two waterproofing layers and moisture might accumulate in between. But maybe anaitis is onto something!?
A little thought. Painted waterproofing does not have the same vapor resistance as, for instance, the foil under tiles. And I understand that it is okay since the water quickly runs off and the surface can dry up. The question is what happens if you place boards over it and moisture gets in between. If you use Aquapanel, then it is a waterproofing layer in itself. So you get two waterproofing layers and moisture might accumulate in between. But maybe anaitis is onto something!?
Cederbusch: I'm not very good at the technical aspects of building, but I read your post and what do you think about building the waterproof layer with tiles then? You would build up a waterproof layer with the cheapest white tiles you can find and then attach these painted boards, such as marine plywood or Aquapanel mentioned above, on top of the tiles. Then it shouldn't be a problem if moisture gets between the boards and the tiles anyway, right? Because the tiles create a perfect waterproof layer and the board wouldn't be damaged by moisture behind it. Or what do you think? Is this a bad idea? I got this suggestion from my contractors, but it's always good to get a second opinion from someone outside as you can't always trust your contractors unfortunately.
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
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Tiles alone are not a waterproof layer. (the joints are not sealed)
Aquapanel is hardly a waterproof layer in itself (I haven't seen the board, but maybe someone else can confirm).
Aquapanel is hardly a waterproof layer in itself (I haven't seen the board, but maybe someone else can confirm).
I expressed myself poorly. I meant that you should build a complete waterproof layer with tiles. In other words, just as if you had chosen to use tiles in your bathroom. And then on top of the tiles, you place the boards/panels.
What I mean, Emilstjernlof, is that it might not be the best solution to have two types of waterproof layers in succession, regardless of the type. If moisture gets in, it has nowhere to go.
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