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Lower the joists 15-20 mm in Götenehus ?
Actually, but he's quite grumpy and doesn't want to redo the job, so what's the minimal possible documentation? It should be insurable as well, this was originally a water damage so they are involved and need to approve the whole thing.
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· Arvika
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In that case, a calculation demonstrating that it works should be sufficient.
Firstly, this was the silliest overreaction to the smallest first-world problem I've seen in a long time. Completely incomprehensible actually how one can get hung up on such a trivial matter!
I understand very well that craftsmen sulk. Who wants to repair something that isn't broken? Planing down the studs evenly will be difficult. So the risk is that it will be worse than before the planing.
But in terms of structural integrity, there are no problems at all. Just a lot of work, for little or no gain whatsoever.
Staffan
I understand very well that craftsmen sulk. Who wants to repair something that isn't broken? Planing down the studs evenly will be difficult. So the risk is that it will be worse than before the planing.
But in terms of structural integrity, there are no problems at all. Just a lot of work, for little or no gain whatsoever.
Staffan
Well, it might seem like that, but now I had a great bathroom that was sloppily restored due to stress, overbooking, and poor planning. And then it's me and not the builder who has to go there daily and think about how it should have looked. What would you have done yourself?
Carelessly restored? Are there any real errors as well? Or just the small trifle with the thumb-thick threshold?O olof63 said:
Staffan
If there is no waterproofing membrane on the floor with upturns, does that mean the walls also have to be redone when the floor is torn up? It would basically mean redoing everything all over again in that case.
It is probably cheapest to redo it; there are always things to discuss, but the difference in level was wrong due to poor planning and communication. That company does hundreds of bathrooms annually, and not all jobs turn out perfectly, which they agree with.
Just wanted to update here, an inspector came to check whether the floor drain and slope were done according to industry standards. I had never questioned this, but the builder apparently thought it was important, and the report confirms that the floor is done according to the rules. However, my objection has been that they should have informed or consulted me about the change with the 22 mm height increase. The builder has also confirmed that they should have done this and that it was a mistake. After six months, nothing more has happened, and the builder doesn't want to deal with this. I'm now considering bringing in a new inspector but have a couple of questions;
- The unintentional 22 mm height increase has resulted in an unwanted "step" into the laundry room from the hallway, and an even larger step from the outside that looks odd.
- Can an inspector have comments on a negligence/information error in the execution? They are supposed to look at construction technical matters, right?
- Where is the line drawn for what is reasonable to accept? Is a 22 mm height increase enough to force the builder to redo the floor? There should be some precedent here.
Lastly, I forgot to say that I offered to pay the additional cost it would have incurred to lower the joists by 22 mm, but it helps little now when everything is almost completed.
Thanks for all the tips and advice here.
- The unintentional 22 mm height increase has resulted in an unwanted "step" into the laundry room from the hallway, and an even larger step from the outside that looks odd.
- Can an inspector have comments on a negligence/information error in the execution? They are supposed to look at construction technical matters, right?
- Where is the line drawn for what is reasonable to accept? Is a 22 mm height increase enough to force the builder to redo the floor? There should be some precedent here.
Lastly, I forgot to say that I offered to pay the additional cost it would have incurred to lower the joists by 22 mm, but it helps little now when everything is almost completed.
Thanks for all the tips and advice here.
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