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Is this really professionally done by an experienced carpenter?
Aside from whether it is the right or wrong drill bit, I must ask what you mean by "taking responsibility themselves and rectifying the mistake"?roland53 said:
Can't a recognized repair of a hole be taking responsibility for one's mistake? Who knows if he hasn't repaired it himself with plaster as we see in the picture.
I am completely convinced that no one has repaired with filler but filled with plaster just as it appears to be. To fine-tune what is visible doesn't even take a minute for a painter when they are spackling the wall, and I'm sure the carpenter and the painter can sort it out between themselves if it's a problem.
If an electrician makes a mistake in a brick wall, do you mean the electrician should build a completely new brick wall themselves or can one assume that it can be repaired according to standard methods using the appropriate type of mortar?
The thread seems to be going off track, and it suddenly seems like people are making things up about repairs falling off and not functioning. Plaster repairs usually hold very well and integrate nicely with the gypsum in the board and even with the wooden studs behind. If the electrician has mounted the box as it should be mounted, it shouldn't move in relation to the boards, and in that case, I see no technical problem with a repair.
One can discuss endlessly what's right or wrong and what size drill bit should have been used, but repairs in gypsum usually present no technical issue.
Device boxes are made of plastic and unfortunately move regardless of how well you attach them on one side.oceanis said:
@polos, we all make mistakes, but here they have repeated their mistake 7 times in quick succession. I think "negligence" is the right word, not "mistake".
Or the right one broke, or the carpenter had a bad day and forgot one of his toolboxes 10 miles away at another customer's place, or...A lot of talk about nothing and the OP fell asleep 1 week ago 
But regardless of whether it should be counted as a mistake or not. The question remains why it is wrong to repair with a common method and what makes you think that the filler would fall off more here than all the filler applied in the board joints.elmont said:
Filler used correctly rarely falls off and if there were a general problem with filler, it wouldn't be used. Then you don't repair the kind of hole shown in the TS image with filler but with gypsum plaster, and that doesn't fall off. There are countless repairs in drywall in Swedish houses, and these have not fallen off.
Similarly, there are gypsum stuccos that are just set with a thin gypsum plaster and have been in place for hundreds of years, sitting on all sorts of substrates from poor plaster to wood.
Note that I am not taking a stance on the issue with the hole saw, the cost, or whether it is a mistake or not, but I am questioning why a repair cannot be considered adequate according to some in this thread.
I have seen more than one repair around outlets that, after plugging in the plug a few times, crack and detach from the drywall. This is because the person doing the repair usually uses whatever they have on hand, which is common filler, and fills it like any other "hole." And it's quite natural that the filler doesn't adhere well to a drywall edge that's "dusty" from the residue left after drilling a hole. Additionally, there's a certain strain on the joint every time you move the plug, as the compound has likely adhered to the box. Sure, it's possible to repair with gypsum plaster, but I've almost never seen gypsum plaster on a typical construction site. So I completely agree that it can be repaired, but it's most likely that the gap is patched with regular filler, which may or may not work.
As an electrician, you should know how a box should be mounted. It is not the plasterboard/plaster compound/filler that should hold the box in place. If the box comes loose, it is not correctly secured/mounted.elmont said:I have seen more than one repair around boxes where after inserting the plug a few times, it cracks and comes loose from the plasterboard. This is because the person making the repair usually uses whatever they have on hand, which is common filler, and applies it as they would in any "dent." And it's quite natural that the filler doesn't adhere well to a plaster edge that's "dusty" from plaster residue left after cutting the hole, plus there's some stress on the joint every time the plug is moved since the compound has likely adhered to the box. Sure, it can be repaired with plaster compound, but I've almost never seen plaster compound on a regular construction site. So, I fully agree that it can be repaired, but most likely the gap is filled with common filler, and that may or may not work.
Haha, yes, that's absolutely true. Because, of course, it doesn't happen that you receive pallets of plasterboard and some sheets are damaged, and you choose instead of throwing these sheets away and also paying for disposal, to let the painter mix some plaster in a bucket and apply it to the damage, which takes a few minutes.
Isn't it better that I return the extra boards I have to the hardware store or put them in our storage and use them for another job rather than throwing away the damaged board? Many probably take that route, but I think it's important to consider the environmental aspect, every little bit helps.
