Above all, plywood is easier to work with! You avoid having to glue together beams 220+45 for the steps, and you avoid construction timber that twists as soon as it comes in and dries a bit.
Then I would probably have glued the tiles with some construction adhesive that is a bit elastic, instead of fix.
Then I would probably have glued the tiles with some construction adhesive that is a bit elastic, instead of fix.
Ah, interesting!daugaard said:
I've hardly ever worked with plywood, except for putting it behind some drywall instead of OSB.
What dimensions are you talking about here? I've seen boards that are about 12 or 15mm thick. That probably won't be rigid enough for a tiled step, so are you thinking of gluing together three boards or so?
Are you thinking of building the stringer as usual with studs, then laying these boards on top? So what you're practically replacing is the steps themselves?
Thanks for your wise thoughts!
Mhm, because?MathiasS said:
If I already have studs in all possible dimensions lying around, is it still worth buying beams? Even though they are not free-standing, but follow a wall? Except for the one or possibly two that go in the middle of the staircase.
there thought more about e.g. double 21mm plywood with a little glue. there are also thicker boards but don't know if that might be very expensive.
you can also make the stringers in plywood if you want, but it also works with joists if you have them lying around. I would have chosen a slightly thicker joist than 45x95 for the middle stringer, maybe 120 or 145mm. don't know if it's necessary but feels better if it fits under the stairs.
you can also make the stringers in plywood if you want, but it also works with joists if you have them lying around. I would have chosen a slightly thicker joist than 45x95 for the middle stringer, maybe 120 or 145mm. don't know if it's necessary but feels better if it fits under the stairs.
I was thinking about the Plyfa staircase theme.tobbew said:Mhm, why?
If I already have studs in all possible dimensions lying around, is it still worth buying a beam? Even though they are not freestanding but follow a wall? Except for the one or possibly two that go in the middle of the stairs.
A year later...
I have now started on the stairs. Because I want it moisture-proof at the bottom, I was determined from the beginning to make the first step cast, or out of lightweight concrete blocks.
In this case, it's lightweight concrete blocks. And since I had a lot of leftover stones, I took the opportunity to make three steps out of them, so in the future, there will be 10 steps of wood.
Stringers of 45 x 145 are currently test-mounted against the wall. The staircase will be 110 cm wide, so I think a middle stringer of the same dimension is necessary, especially if tiles are to be used, which I absolutely have planned. It's likely that, according to a suggestion a couple of posts up, plywood steps with a total thickness of around 40mm will be used.
Maybe there should even be two stringers, making it approx cm 35, it's hard for me to predict how much flex the stairs will have (the stringer is 280 cm long, but the two against the wall are, as mentioned, not load-bearing alone, but well anchored into the wall studs).
Everything will eventually be clad over time, so hopefully it won't be visible what is lightweight concrete or wood. We'll see how it turns out, maybe the stairs will be good, maybe they will be bad. But right now it seems reasonable that they will be a decent garage staircase!
More pictures are available on the house's Facebook page.
But the big question is: Will it hold with only one stringer in the middle? That would make it about cc55.
I have now started on the stairs. Because I want it moisture-proof at the bottom, I was determined from the beginning to make the first step cast, or out of lightweight concrete blocks.
In this case, it's lightweight concrete blocks. And since I had a lot of leftover stones, I took the opportunity to make three steps out of them, so in the future, there will be 10 steps of wood.
Stringers of 45 x 145 are currently test-mounted against the wall. The staircase will be 110 cm wide, so I think a middle stringer of the same dimension is necessary, especially if tiles are to be used, which I absolutely have planned. It's likely that, according to a suggestion a couple of posts up, plywood steps with a total thickness of around 40mm will be used.
Maybe there should even be two stringers, making it approx cm 35, it's hard for me to predict how much flex the stairs will have (the stringer is 280 cm long, but the two against the wall are, as mentioned, not load-bearing alone, but well anchored into the wall studs).
Everything will eventually be clad over time, so hopefully it won't be visible what is lightweight concrete or wood. We'll see how it turns out, maybe the stairs will be good, maybe they will be bad. But right now it seems reasonable that they will be a decent garage staircase!
More pictures are available on the house's Facebook page.
But the big question is: Will it hold with only one stringer in the middle? That would make it about cc55.
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