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Help regarding drywall on basement walls!!!
Searching and searching in this exciting thread but I can't really find a good answer, so instead, I'm tossing the question to all of you.
My house is a split-level house from the 1960s and I'm in the process of decorating the basement.
Basement walls below ground are being drained and insulated using Isodrän. On the interior wall that is 100% below ground, steel studs and drywall with an air gap will be used, as well as a gap at the ceiling and baseboard.
The wall that is entirely above ground will have steel studs and will be insulated with 45+70 mm insulation (two layers to break thermal bridges) and plastic will be placed between the two layers (and therefore not at risk of being damaged by nails, for example).
The remaining side walls are partly below and partly above ground. How do I handle insulation and plastic there? For example, the ground is about 60 cm up the wall in one place (with Isodrän on the outside). Should I insulate there and place plastic on the part above ground and not insulate and place plastic on the last 60 cm? I think it sounds a bit strange, so that's why I want your opinions. How should I proceed? How should I think?
Best regards,
Joachim
My house is a split-level house from the 1960s and I'm in the process of decorating the basement.
Basement walls below ground are being drained and insulated using Isodrän. On the interior wall that is 100% below ground, steel studs and drywall with an air gap will be used, as well as a gap at the ceiling and baseboard.
The wall that is entirely above ground will have steel studs and will be insulated with 45+70 mm insulation (two layers to break thermal bridges) and plastic will be placed between the two layers (and therefore not at risk of being damaged by nails, for example).
The remaining side walls are partly below and partly above ground. How do I handle insulation and plastic there? For example, the ground is about 60 cm up the wall in one place (with Isodrän on the outside). Should I insulate there and place plastic on the part above ground and not insulate and place plastic on the last 60 cm? I think it sounds a bit strange, so that's why I want your opinions. How should I proceed? How should I think?
Best regards,
Joachim
Only insulate what is not underground! That is, what is above ground should be insulated and wrapped in plastic. However, I don't know how to handle the plastic, whether it should end flush with the insulation or be folded in! Does anyone else perhaps know? How do you manage the plastic around windows and such?
The purpose of the plastic is to prevent water vapor in the air from reaching the insulation and thus create moisture problems.
With my revised insulation of 45 mm + 95 mm, the dew point will lie somewhere in the 95 mm insulation, thereby risking moisture problems.
If I'm only going to insulate the part that's above ground, I guess I have to fold in the plastic. But at the same time, I'm thinking that moisture could then creep in from below and up the backside of the insulation, thereby creeping into the insulation. Taping the foil to the wall doesn't sound like a sustainable way to address the problem with folded-in plastic.
With my revised insulation of 45 mm + 95 mm, the dew point will lie somewhere in the 95 mm insulation, thereby risking moisture problems.
If I'm only going to insulate the part that's above ground, I guess I have to fold in the plastic. But at the same time, I'm thinking that moisture could then creep in from below and up the backside of the insulation, thereby creeping into the insulation. Taping the foil to the wall doesn't sound like a sustainable way to address the problem with folded-in plastic.
Since they are above ground, I wrapped all the way to the frame.
http://forum.byggahus.se/isolering/60023-plast-och-foenster.html
http://forum.byggahus.se/isolering/60023-plast-och-foenster.html
Hi
After reading what has been written about this, I do not get a clear picture of how to insulate a space in the basement that will become a laundry room.
Could it look like the following?
Insulation for the outer wall
Existing basement wall concrete
Steel studs creating a 30 mm air gap, screwed horizontally in 3 rounds (floor, middle, ceiling) into the concrete
Oiled hardboard screwed onto the steel
45 * 95 screwed vertically into the steel with cc 60
Insulate with 95 mm insulation
12 mm Gypsum board mounted Alternative wetroom board
Primer applied to Gypsum/wetroom board
Tiles mounted with a 0.5 cm air gap towards the ceiling
Air into the air gap is taken through the wall from a vent mounted in the tiles just above the floor
After reading what has been written about this, I do not get a clear picture of how to insulate a space in the basement that will become a laundry room.
Could it look like the following?
Insulation for the outer wall
Existing basement wall concrete
Steel studs creating a 30 mm air gap, screwed horizontally in 3 rounds (floor, middle, ceiling) into the concrete
Oiled hardboard screwed onto the steel
45 * 95 screwed vertically into the steel with cc 60
Insulate with 95 mm insulation
12 mm Gypsum board mounted Alternative wetroom board
Primer applied to Gypsum/wetroom board
Tiles mounted with a 0.5 cm air gap towards the ceiling
Air into the air gap is taken through the wall from a vent mounted in the tiles just above the floor
Hello!
How do you attach heavier items to a wall with metal studs and plasterboard?
How do you attach heavier items to a wall with metal studs and plasterboard?
With drywall anchors. In our previous house, there was drywall in every wall, so many drywall anchors were needed! Now we have tretex (not in the basement though), so it's just a matter of getting out the wood screws.
What's wrong with using sand filler in the basement?
I've skim coated a wall and painted with textured paint. This has held up for two years now on really damp walls, and now I've continued with another room but I'm getting a bit worried when this doesn't seem to be recommended...
I've skim coated a wall and painted with textured paint. This has held up for two years now on really damp walls, and now I've continued with another room but I'm getting a bit worried when this doesn't seem to be recommended...
On my basement walls, I'm planning to use steel studs and masterboard. No insulation + vapor barrier except for the part above ground... the basement wall doesn't have any draining insulation on the outside, but that will be added.....
This construction is for two reasons, the first is because I want to insulate the part that is above ground, and the second is to hide the multitude of pipes that run along these walls. Incoming water, electricity, telephone, all water pipes....
What I haven't decided yet is whether I should have vents into this space or not...
This construction is for two reasons, the first is because I want to insulate the part that is above ground, and the second is to hide the multitude of pipes that run along these walls. Incoming water, electricity, telephone, all water pipes....
What I haven't decided yet is whether I should have vents into this space or not...
Two years ago, I started with installing metal studs and double drywall in my basement (no insulation on the inside), and placed blue Platon under the base ledger. I built in radiator pipes in the wall to get some heat and air circulation. I ventilated the walls at the top with a 5mm air gap. For the interior walls, I used Easycover with wet room adhesive and then wallpapered. We skipped the Platon upturn as I had been informed it drew moisture up more on the wall. On the floor, I laid 15mm parquet, which turned out great and really felt good. The house was drained in '01 with Jackodren 70m, and before that, we removed chipboards and insulated the inner wall frame which had dried up nicely over the 4 years that had passed. A year ago, I continued with the neighboring room, and when it had been finished for 2 weeks and felt really good, we started noticing an unpleasant smell along the skirting board in the first room. I called Ocab, and a guy came with a moisture meter; no significant moisture readings, but I believed I saw mold tendencies on the inside of the skirting board. He agreed that there was a stale smell from the floor edge. The interior walls turned out to be completely sealed with Easycover and the plaster deteriorated underneath, avoid this in basements. According to Ocab, almost all basements have moisture, even newly drained ones; concrete floors draw up moisture.
What to do? I first started by installing Platon upturn afterward to prevent any moist air from reaching the wooden list, not easy if you don’t remove the entire floor, and I also have a fixed screen wall that locks one of the floors. Now the smell has decreased, but I still notice it occasionally. I'm now considering mechanical ventilation under the Platon mat, which I plan to fix myself in line with Platon's design. Since I have difficulty sealing the air supply in the studded walls, it doesn’t seem worth contacting a Platon consultant; instead, I’m leaning towards rigging something with a channel fan and some sound dampeners, as well as throttling the supply where I can so that all the supply air has an equal distance to travel from the studded wall to the exhaust. Has anyone installed ventilated Platon themselves and can share their experience?
If I were to redo it today, I would hire someone to saw up the floor to cart it out with a few friends. I would then insulate the floor with 20cm of suitable cell plastic insulation and add underfloor heating. On the walls, I'd opt for plastering with embedded electrical conduits. But when I did this room, I had just finished such a bathroom job and was pretty tired of jackhammers and hauling out concrete, gravel, and rocks.
What to do? I first started by installing Platon upturn afterward to prevent any moist air from reaching the wooden list, not easy if you don’t remove the entire floor, and I also have a fixed screen wall that locks one of the floors. Now the smell has decreased, but I still notice it occasionally. I'm now considering mechanical ventilation under the Platon mat, which I plan to fix myself in line with Platon's design. Since I have difficulty sealing the air supply in the studded walls, it doesn’t seem worth contacting a Platon consultant; instead, I’m leaning towards rigging something with a channel fan and some sound dampeners, as well as throttling the supply where I can so that all the supply air has an equal distance to travel from the studded wall to the exhaust. Has anyone installed ventilated Platon themselves and can share their experience?
If I were to redo it today, I would hire someone to saw up the floor to cart it out with a few friends. I would then insulate the floor with 20cm of suitable cell plastic insulation and add underfloor heating. On the walls, I'd opt for plastering with embedded electrical conduits. But when I did this room, I had just finished such a bathroom job and was pretty tired of jackhammers and hauling out concrete, gravel, and rocks.