The most sustainable glue for wood?

[Alfredo]

So my question was NOT about how I could get a better construction

The problem has been that it wasn't enough for me to say that the construction wasn't an issue for me.

As I see it, you don't have the authority to decide what is appropriate in a thread just because you created it. What is written here is not only intended for you but knowledge that will remain for a long time to benefit the forum and its members.

If a construction is presented that may be seen as less successful in certain aspects, it is appropriate for those potential issues to be raised, especially if safety issues are involved.

 

[Plupp 217177]

How does it become my bet? Can I come and test stepping (once) on your two bottom steps?

The thread has highlighted where the error in your design lies, and others can, as mentioned, get a look at what mistake you made. You ignore that it doesn't withstand what a staircase should handle. YOU think it's in order, and as mentioned, that's okay for you. We've understood that part.

But this bears repeating, because you are truly wrong about your dumbbell mishap:

Moreover, a correctly constructed and dimensioned stair should easily handle a 10kg dumbbell falling 3 meters.

 

[DanMicke]

As I see it, you don't have the authority to decide what fits in a thread just because you created it. What is written here is not only intended for you but knowledge that will remain long-term for the benefit of the forum and its members.

If a construction is presented that is seen as less successful in certain aspects, it is appropriate for these potential issues to be raised. Especially if safety-related questions are involved.

As I see it, threads are most beneficial when they stick to the subject in the title. Makes it easier for others who want to, as in this case, know more about the strength in glue. When you find similar threads about something you're interested in because of the title and later find out that others' initiatives have instead opened a completely different discussion with post after post, you don't have the energy to go through the thread.

No, I don't have any 'authority' over thread content, and how you inferred that, I don't know. But a good piece of advice from me is to stick to the subject as much as possible so others can find what they're looking for more easily. My goal was not to tell everyone they can ignore all building advice, but perhaps to suggest that a bumblebee can also fly if it can be demonstrated with evidence. Otherwise, if I were building a staircase, I would hardly go to a thread for anything other than to possibly get links to good documentation on the matter.

What prompted you to feel the need to comment in a thread about glue? Well, I don't care about that, but since you thought I should be 'corrected,' you got some reflection in return .

 

[mexitegel]

You think your staircase is like the accident in Harrisburg?

"Then there's also the fact that if what happened in Harrisburg really happened, against all odds, then the likelihood of it happening again is so incredibly ridiculously small that in a way you could say it was almost good that what happened in Harrisburg happened, if it did. Because I mean then you can almost certainly say that it won't happen again."

 

[DanMicke]

You think your staircase is like the Harrisburg accident?

”Then there's also the fact that if what happened in Harrisburg really happened, against all odds, then the probability of it happening again is so ridiculously tiny that in a way you could say it was almost good that what happened in Harrisburg happened, if it did. Because I mean, then you can almost certainly say that it won't happen again.”

??? Poorly chosen analogy, I must say. Unless you mean that I'm imagining that a dumbbell will never fall down the stairs again? In that case, I dare say it's 'almost certain that it won't happen again'

 

[Alfredo]

What exactly made you feel compelled to add this comment in a thread that is about glue?

When I gave my glue advice in #45, the thread ended up on my watchlist. It was nothing stranger than that.

 

[Plupp 217177]

but maybe that a bumblebee can also fly if it can be demonstrated with empiricism.

But you haven't demonstrated it. It's just you who experiences it that way. Let me come by and show with a good stomp that that bumblebee is not flying at all.

And the thread becomes more rewarding and more educational by the discussion being driven forward by different perspectives. Ride along instead and don't see what's being presented as criticism against you as a person. No one has implied that you're an idiot in any way.

You have received good answers about how to glue in wood. Also.

 

[AXS]

Some suggestions:

• Loosen the step and turn it so the crack faces inward.
• Saw a cut through the board as close to the break as possible. Then glue.
• Screw with list screws from the front for extra strength.
• Reinforce with "konsoller" that you attach to both stringers and steps. You can do this on all steps if you want to reinforce for future drops.

 

[DanMicke]

But you haven't demonstrated it. It's just you who perceives it that way. Let me come over and show with a solid stomp that that bumblebee doesn't fly at all.

And the thread becomes more rewarding and educational by the discussion being driven forward by different perspectives. Join in instead and don't see what's being presented as criticism of you as a person. No one has suggested that you are an idiot in any way.

You've gotten good answers about how to glue wood too.

It was a damn nagging about your strong desire to come home and try to stomp on the steps to prove I'm 'wrong'. There is no respect for what I say. I don't 'experience' my staircase for God's sake. I use it and don't tiptoe. Stop your nagging. Can you possibly be satisfied with the fact that I am happy with my stairs and have the competence to know if they are dangerous? Worse than trolls on Twitter judging by the pettiness. Disguised in some kind of 'care' for others. Most seem to have understood, and I'm not giving any more time to unsolicited advice. To your great horror, I've mentioned that a staircase with 'too much' overhang can also hold. You'll have to live with that.

 

[DanMicke]

Some suggestions:

• Unscrew the step and turn it so the crack is on the inside.
• Saw a cut through the board as close to the break as possible. Then glue it.
• Screw with list screw from the front for extra strength.
• Reinforce with "brackets" that you screw into both the stringers and steps. You can do this on all the steps if you want to reinforce for future use.

Relevant suggestions and I have considered a couple of them.

It's difficult to achieve a new straight cut without deforming the rectangular shape. As mentioned, I'll break it loose, and from above it doesn't seem like it will result in a lot of splintering, so I hope for a relatively clean cut.

Turning the step was a creative suggestion. It depends a bit on where the screw holes end up, but definitely worth considering.

In that case, the list screw needs to be quite long and of thin dimension. I've thought about it but guessed it would be difficult to screw all the way in since there is some distance.

I've had the idea of using brackets from the beginning, or twisted metal at 90 degrees so I can hide the vertical part against the stringers at the back of the stairs, and let the horizontal part run a bit into the step. That's when the discussion about the durability of the glue joint came up, which I've been told becomes stronger than the wood itself, so it might be worth testing if glue alone is sufficient.

But good reflections. Thank you.

 

[richardtenggren]

I think most of it has already been covered in the thread, but what do those aluminum profiles actually add?
Are they the crown on the design?

I would probably have replaced the step, otherwise separated the fracture surface, glued and screwed according to the previous picture in the thread, and turned the step if it is not adapted to the carriage piece.

 

[nybyggarn3]

I think it was a really nice staircase. The answer might be in earlier posts (couldn't be bothered to read all the posts because of all the fuss about the construction), but why don't you just make a new step?

 

[DanMicke]

I think most of it has already been covered in the thread, but what do those aluminum profiles really add?
Is it the finishing touch from a design perspective?

I would probably have replaced the step, otherwise separated the fracture surface, glued and screwed according to the previous picture in the thread, and flipped the step if it's not adapted to the stringer.

It was a vague idea about lightly pressing down the back of the step for stability. The profile was so cheap that I just added them. I can't say if they contribute to anything, but I got the feeling that they added something

 

[DanMicke]

I think it was a really nice staircase. The answer might be in previous posts (didn't feel like reading all the posts due to all the fuss about the construction), but why don't you just make a new step?

It's been said but I have full sympathy. Who the heck has the energy to look for what was the focus of the thread? I will definitely put in a new step if the repair doesn't work. The only downside is really that a new one won't have the same wear as the old ones and will 'stand out'. But that option is definitely there and is quite straightforward really.

PS. Although a whole can of white linseed oil is expensive if you only need a deciliter

 

[frityreldarn]

An improbable accident when a 10 kg dumbbell fell down my floating staircase and cracked one of the steps along the wood fibers. It's enough to make you cry but it has to be fixed. The wood hasn't completely split and I have the opportunity to support it with two angle brackets. Of course, I also want to glue the surfaces.

I've worked a bit in construction and ordinary wood glue has a good reputation for the joint's durability if applied correctly and then clamped during curing. So that's what I'm primarily thinking of. Just wanted to see if anyone here knows of another choice of glue that would be even better?

What to keep in mind is that regular wood glue is not gap-filling. It needs to have a perfect fit to hold.