Hello!
I screwed up hook hangers for the kids with expanders on a roughly 3-year-old drywall. When my son leaned on a hook, the wall gave way and cracked where both expanders were. (He didn't hang onto the hooks or anything, just held on with one hand to avoid falling while taking off his shoes) Left are two large round holes with cracks around >
Does anyone know, was this an accident or could there be something wrong with the drywall? The expanders? They were those regular metal ones...
When I now screw the hook hanger a bit higher up, should I do something differently?
All tips are gratefully received - fiddeli
I screwed up hook hangers for the kids with expanders on a roughly 3-year-old drywall. When my son leaned on a hook, the wall gave way and cracked where both expanders were. (He didn't hang onto the hooks or anything, just held on with one hand to avoid falling while taking off his shoes) Left are two large round holes with cracks around >
Does anyone know, was this an accident or could there be something wrong with the drywall? The expanders? They were those regular metal ones...
When I now screw the hook hanger a bit higher up, should I do something differently?
All tips are gratefully received - fiddeli
In principle, I believe that if you have a hook that sticks out a bit, it provides an excellent lever arm. And a bending load is what a drywall anchor is worst at.
But one could speculate if you damaged the wall already when you installed the anchor, for example, if you tightened it too much, causing cracks. Did you use any mounting tool that "pulls" out the screw, or did you simply screw in the screw (then it's more challenging to feel when it's done)?
But one could speculate if you damaged the wall already when you installed the anchor, for example, if you tightened it too much, causing cracks. Did you use any mounting tool that "pulls" out the screw, or did you simply screw in the screw (then it's more challenging to feel when it's done)?
I have stopped using expanders (I think they're called molly). Instead, I use a type of spiral screw that drills in and taps itself into the drywall. Then you just drive a regular screw into the spiral.
A major advantage of these is that they can be unscrewed if you no longer want them there. Sure, you have to fill the hole, but it's nothing compared to the hole you get after removing a molly. Plus, you don't need to pre-drill.
The spirals (I'm sure they have a good name) are available in plastic (Fisher, for example) or light metal (Grabber, for example).
/Micke
A major advantage of these is that they can be unscrewed if you no longer want them there. Sure, you have to fill the hole, but it's nothing compared to the hole you get after removing a molly. Plus, you don't need to pre-drill.
The spirals (I'm sure they have a good name) are available in plastic (Fisher, for example) or light metal (Grabber, for example).
/Micke
Yes, I've also been thinking about the lever arm thing, but the hooks stick out maybe 4 - 5 cm ... You're supposed to be able to mount significantly larger things with an expander ... right??
I screwed them in by hand and may have screwed them in too tightly.
Micke! Do the "spirals" really work for the weight my son will surely cause again ... ?
fiddeli
I screwed them in by hand and may have screwed them in too tightly.
Micke! Do the "spirals" really work for the weight my son will surely cause again ... ?
fiddeli
When you screw by hand, there is a risk that the entire plug will rotate when you pull it. It can also damage the drywall on the inside. If the paper is damaged, the strength decreases dramatically.
I haven't tested the spirals. But you get a really good grip resistance when you tighten the screws.
Nothing has fallen down for us I've screwed, for example, a picture ledge in oak with a bunch of oak frames on it without any problems.
I definitely think you should try them. If nothing else, start with a lighter mounting first so you can see how smooth they are.
/Micke
Nothing has fallen down for us
I've screwed, for example, a picture ledge in oak with a bunch of oak frames on it without any problems.I definitely think you should try them. If nothing else, start with a lighter mounting first so you can see how smooth they are.
/Micke