I have found a dark gray, almost black, "cardboard" under an old plastic carpet.
I am considering if it might be older lumppapp.
Or what else it could be.
I don't quite remember, but I seem to recall that the cardboard was nailed to the old underlying plank floor. Did people do that in the past?
Does anyone here know if old lumppapp can have different colors and thicknesses?
Or has there always only been the slightly lighter gray "grålumppapp"?
The cardboard I found feels darker than that. Hence the question about color.
How can you determine if it's lumppapp?
Any specific characteristics?
Maybe someone here has a picture of older lumppapp?
I have searched online but mostly found pictures of new lumppapp on rolls.
Thanks in advance!
I am considering if it might be older lumppapp.
Or what else it could be.
I don't quite remember, but I seem to recall that the cardboard was nailed to the old underlying plank floor. Did people do that in the past?
Does anyone here know if old lumppapp can have different colors and thicknesses?
Or has there always only been the slightly lighter gray "grålumppapp"?
The cardboard I found feels darker than that. Hence the question about color.
How can you determine if it's lumppapp?
Any specific characteristics?
Maybe someone here has a picture of older lumppapp?
I have searched online but mostly found pictures of new lumppapp on rolls.
Thanks in advance!
It sounds more like förhydningspapp, which was used inside against the room (but outside the surface layer) to prevent water from coming in. http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Förhydningspapp
Thanks for the answer KnockOnWood!
Does it sound logical that there is an old forhydnpapp (or lumppapp) under older linoleum/plastic flooring, directly on top of the house's old plank floor?
I will try to get a picture during the day, but unfortunately, I only managed to get a small piece from a gap in the floor.
Most of it should have been removed when a new parquet floor was installed a few years ago, but the guy who did the job was a careless one, leaving remnants of material under the new parquet, which also protrudes in large floor gaps, which he also left behind.
And now to the obvious follow-up question from me:
Do old lumppapp and forhydnpapp contain asbestos?
Does it sound logical that there is an old forhydnpapp (or lumppapp) under older linoleum/plastic flooring, directly on top of the house's old plank floor?
I will try to get a picture during the day, but unfortunately, I only managed to get a small piece from a gap in the floor.
Most of it should have been removed when a new parquet floor was installed a few years ago, but the guy who did the job was a careless one, leaving remnants of material under the new parquet, which also protrudes in large floor gaps, which he also left behind.
And now to the obvious follow-up question from me:
Do old lumppapp and forhydnpapp contain asbestos?
The answer is probably a 110 percent NOStina71 said:...Does old lump paper and forhydningspapp contain asbestos?
The wheat humhum what it is!
It looks quite thick.
Are you sure it's not the nålfilten, which was a part of the plastic mat?
If the mat has been glued, most of the backing nålfilten mat will remain on the substrate.
Such mats were made in the 1960s-1970s to dampen the step sounds in the thin floor structures of that time.
See
http://www.byggahus.se/forum/golv/226490-lim-under-plastmatta-asbest.html
http://www.byggahus.se/forum/golv/235718-vad-ar-det-har-och-hur-far-jag-bort-det.html
and
http://www.byggahus.se/forum/golv/234089-plastmatta.html
It looks quite thick.
Are you sure it's not the nålfilten, which was a part of the plastic mat?
If the mat has been glued, most of the backing nålfilten mat will remain on the substrate.
Such mats were made in the 1960s-1970s to dampen the step sounds in the thin floor structures of that time.
See
http://www.byggahus.se/forum/golv/226490-lim-under-plastmatta-asbest.html
http://www.byggahus.se/forum/golv/235718-vad-ar-det-har-och-hur-far-jag-bort-det.html
and
http://www.byggahus.se/forum/golv/234089-plastmatta.html
Well, I don't know... No idea if it could be nålfilt.
Is there a risk to suspect asbestos in that case?
You're right that it looks quite thick.
It looks like it's layering in several layers, kind of.
Was there ever lumppapp that was that thick?
Or the other type of papp you mentioned earlier?
Is there a risk to suspect asbestos in that case?
You're right that it looks quite thick.
It looks like it's layering in several layers, kind of.
Was there ever lumppapp that was that thick?
Or the other type of papp you mentioned earlier?
No no no, there is no asbestos there!