Hello everyone!

We're getting close to the final stages before construction, and it would be interesting to hear how you all think it should be done.

The house has a number of steel beams embedded in the intermediate floor to avoid load-bearing structures below.
In these beams (I believe they are HEA-beams), the intermediate floor will be installed according to the pictures below.
Cross-sectional view of a steel HEA beam integrated into a floor structure, showing interaction with a yellow panel for fitting floorboards.
Steel beam structure with wooden joists for a floor plan, depicting HEA beams integrated to support a non-load-bearing floor between levels.

The embedded steel beams look like this:
3D rendering of a building frame with yellow beams, steel joists, and walls, illustrating embedded HEA beams in the floor structure under construction.

Is there a solution for attaching the intermediate floor to the steel on the H-beam?
Since the beams will be in place before the battens, you'll have to fold them in, and therefore, it's not possible to have mounts for every batten. I imagine that the self-weight of the intermediate floor will resolve most issues and that the battens will stay in place with noggings + screws/glue in the chipboard on the floor and the lath below.

Best regards, Richard
 
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Weld or screw with self-drilling screws to fasten BMF angles.
 
Oki doki. Another variant I thought of was to drill holes through the stålbalken and screw from above/below.

/ Richard
 
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Wedge at each end so they stay in place and cannot bend.
 
Use beam straps:

Illustration of beam straps from JOMA Calculation Manual, showing the application on a structural beam joint.

image from JOMA Calculation Handbook
 
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What type of HEA beam do you have? In my case, I had HEA 180 and 45x220 bjäklag, which allowed after notching to screw-glue 45+40 mm wooden studs above the steel beam. One on each side of every joist, about 60cm in on each joist.
 
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@Fahlis - I actually hadn't seen that before. I will check it out!

@JOW - HEA 220, that would of course have been nice to achieve something like that, but I'm afraid that it would have built too much.

Best regards, Richard
 
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Secure angles with a bolt gun.
 
Yes, your steel beam is as high as the floor structure, so my suggestion is not an option for you.

Grind off the galvanization if you are going to weld construction angles.
 
When my house was built, it was planned for beam straps according to Fahlis's sketch. But the builder disregarded these. He screw-glued a 45x70 rule on top of the subframes/floor joists instead.

The rules were 220 and thus became 290 mm, the HEA beam was 200 mm. Unfinished attic on top of the 290 mm floor structure.
 
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We also searched around the forum to see how it could be solved. In our case, it was 2 pillars of vkr 70x70x4 that turned into kkr, about 2.5m high. With a HEA200 on top, about 5m. In case anyone is looking for an answer just like I did...
 
  • Wooden beams in an attic with an exposed floor section and a steel HEA200 beam. The wall is partially insulated, showing renovation progress.
  • Metal beam reinforcement with a bracket connecting a wooden structure in a house renovation. Construction materials and partial framing are visible.
@Smillan1000 How did you attach the beam to the pillars?
We are going to have almost exactly the same solution as you, would love to see suggestions on how to do it. :)
 
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@Smillan1000 How did you attach the beam to the pillars? We are planning to have almost the exact same solution as you, would love to see some suggestions on how to do it. :)
It was welded. I was a bit worried due to the fire risk with wood etc that has dried for 45 years, but it went well. We had wet towels around as well as a fire extinguisher. The lower part of the pillars was welded to a plate about 15x30cm for support, which in turn stands on the foundation wall and is held with expansion bolts.
 
  • Welded metal joint in a building structure, with wooden beams and insulation visible, showing a 15x30 cm plate for load distribution.
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Thanks! We'll see how we solve it, but I suspect it will be something similar.
 
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We also searched around the forum to see how it could be solved. In our case, it was 2 columns of vkr 70x70x4 that became kkr, about 2.5m high. With a HEA200 on top of about 5m. In case anyone is looking for answers just like I did...
Did you drill holes in the hea beam and bolt the angles?
 
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