Everyone sells non-approved stairs ?? why ?? not ok .....

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Grums Snickerifabrik AB

 

[Needas]

Check out my extremely rebellious staircase, it is super non-approved but sooo stylish.

https://www.byggahus.se/forum/threa...ed-era-hus-idag.167378/page-1134#post-2813740

 

[jonmo]

Please stop arguing that rules exist for a reason. Of course they do. But not necessarily for a good reason or one that is applicable in every single case.

 

[Marcus_L]

The word "bör" should never be included in a requirement because, with that word, the requirement has no value.

 

[kenneth5828]

Wise who don't usually follow rules slavishly, what significance does it have that it is not approved and does not comply with BBR?

 

[hempularen]

It's about what happens when an accident occurs. If a child gets stuck and is strangled, or breaks their neck. Aside from the fact that most people responsible for such an accident probably have a hard time sleeping for a while, there can possibly be legal repercussions.

If you build something that requires a building permit, the child safety is strictly controlled by your KA. When we remodeled, we had a good KA. But basically the only point he really scrutinized in detail was the child safety of the staircase.

I also built a new entrance staircase, galvanized wrought iron with granite slabs. The designer was extremely careful about child safety, the metalworking company that was going to weld it together conducted thorough checks to ensure the child safety was truly met, and the KA checked it again.

 

[hempularen]

Please stop arguing that rules exist for a reason. Of course, they do. But not necessarily a good one or one that is applicable in each and every case.

Yes, IF you have a staircase in an environment where it is theoretically impossible for a child to ever be present, like inside the radiation zone of a nuclear reactor, then it is not applicable.

 

[kenneth5828]

are there any cases where stair manufacturers have been held liable, or is it the same as with electrical work done by oneself and accidents, with no rulings.

 

[hempularen]

I don't know much about stair accidents. But when it comes to electricity, there are no convictions regarding properly but illegally done DIY work. However, there are some rulings from electrical accidents, though the only one I can think of now didn't involve DIY work, but rather an electrician who made a mistake. (The 5-year-old who died at the preschool due to a miswired electrical heater; it was miswired from the factory, but the electrician should have noticed it, and he was therefore convicted of involuntary manslaughter).

There is a stair accident that I know was investigated by prosecutors, but I don't know if anyone was convicted. It involved a staircase in Stockholm City Hall, where a child got through the "railings" and fell 4 or 5 floors, and died.

When the City Hall was built, they probably didn't think children would be present there, as it was intended only for the city's politicians and officials. They likely didn't consider it being opened for tourist tours at the time.

 

[Mikael.S]

As previously written, there's a difference between public spaces and private villas.
I'm a rebel too!!:

https://www.byggahus.se/forum/threa...us-inuti-ett-annat.209261/page-8#post-2780136

But we are two adults without children living at home, so if we fall through the stairs or climb on the cable railings, we have only ourselves to blame...

Additionally, we prioritized getting more daylight into the corridor than the old stable windows could provide.

;-) Mikael S