Which forum rule would that be? I don't think §5.2 is applicable anyway.
But all of them. Please, can we stop bickering? I would really appreciate any more technical tips on how to drill in this plate, and what (if any) impact it might have on the plate's durability. But maybe we have other things to do this Lucia morning than sit here and discuss forum technicalities? Just a suggestion.
There are only a few days left until the winter solstice. Then the year turns, and it starts to get lighter again. Lucia symbolizes much of this. Let's enjoy our lives today!
Are there perhaps closets/storage rooms directly above each other in the apartments? A discreet little hole there wouldn't be the end of the world...
It's a good thought, and I see where you're going with it. However, I think the balcony is a better idea and covering the hole with a white plastic box would make it nice and tidy.
Are there perhaps closets/storage directly above each other in the apartments? A discreet little hole there wouldn't be the end of the world...
The apartments should belong to different fire compartments so that fire does not immediately spread between them. A hole between them is therefore not good. Besides the risk of drilling into something with electricity or water.
There is absolutely no danger in drilling such a small hole in the balcony. There is mostly reinforcement around the edges, which makes it more difficult to drill holes there.
There is absolutely no harm in drilling such a small hole in the balcony. Most of the reinforcement is around the edges, which makes it harder to drill holes there.
Thanks. How far from the edge do you recommend drilling? And if you happen to hit the reinforcement, is that a problem?
5-7 cm you have already received an answer in the thread...
I think people exaggerate the risks.
Of course, no one gets their Brf forfeited for drilling a hole in a balcony...
I believe the risk is significantly greater if you drill inside the apartment.
But I think that if the only problem with running it around the balcony is that it's visible, you should be able to solve it in another way.
Wrap some Christmas lights around the cable and leave it up all year round. No one will think about it anymore...🤔
I believe the risk of drilling into reinforcement is lower if you stay 15cm from the edge and wall. The cover layer should be at least 3-5cm, so the first rod will be somewhere around there. It could also be some semi-prefabricated element with an embedded plate or beam at the edge. But a picture of the balcony would help.
But is there no conduit with inspection hatches or similar that you can use to lower a fiber cable without causing damage?
Here you have a picture of a reinforced balcony slab. As you can see, it is not so easy to tell where the reinforcement is or isn't since it depends on many factors. For example, how far into the facade the balcony extends. There are good scanners available for rent that show exactly where you have reinforcement.
It's unfortunate if you drill into reinforcement or graze one, and then in a few years the rust from frost wedging breaks pieces of the balcony. Sure, seal your hole but then you move out and don't care about it anymore.
5-7 cm have already been answered in the thread...
I think people exaggerate the risks.
Of course, no one has their Brf forfeited for drilling a hole in a balcony...
I think it's a significantly greater risk if you drill inside the apartment.
But I think that if the only problem with running it around the balcony is that it's visible, you should be able to solve it another way.
Wrap some Christmas lights around the cable and just leave it there year-round. No one will question it further...🤔
I have looked into such options, but I believe you'll need a crane from the outside to do it. You can't reach from the inside.
I think the risk of drilling into reinforcement is smaller if you keep 15cm from the edge and wall. The cover layer should be at least 3-5cm, so the first rebar will be somewhere around there. It could also be some semi-prefab with cast-in plate or beam at the edge. But a picture of the balcony would help.
But isn't there a utility shaft with inspection hatches or something similar that you can slide a fiber cable through without causing any damage?
There are shafts in the stairwell. I just think the problem is getting it there in both apartments. I have opened the boxes for old telephone lines. Currently, there's an internet cable, and there isn't enough space in those conduits to pull this fiber.
Boring into reinforcement or barely touching one, and then in a few years the frost causes the rust to break pieces off the balcony—too bad. Sure, seal your hole, but then you move out and don't care about it.
Good point. If I choose to do this, I will definitely rent a scanner (as suggested in another post).
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