I am also curious about what the wall is made of and in what form asbestos is present in it.
 
Hello again! Tomorrow we will probably put up the shelf anyway, and pre-drill holes then use plugs and screws.

Took out an old universal plug that was there and the wall looks like this from the outside:
 
  • A textured white wall with a hole where a universal plug was removed, shown under bright lighting.
  • Close-up of a textured wall with a drilled hole after removing a universal plug.
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Here is the association's response to my question, which was "we have heard that there is asbestos in the walls, is this true and what should we consider?"

"Hello and welcome to our wonderful association!
1) There is asbestos, but it's a bit unclear where. As long as it's not disturbed, it doesn't cause harm. However, if a major alteration is planned, such as removing a wall or part of a wall, it may be necessary to hire someone who decontaminates according to regulations."
 
What can you say about such a response... It doesn't feel very reassuring when the association can't back up a claim with facts. Too bad, unfortunately I didn't get to know more about the presence of asbestos in the walls. Hope the shelf turned out well.
 
Update!

We spoke to the neighbor who is knowledgeable and has found out a lot about the house. She said the material in the wall was "asbestos panels with masonite on top," maybe she meant eternit panels behind and masonite is what’s visible in the picture I posted? At the same time, as a complete amateur, I personally think the gray doesn’t look like masonite.

The outermost layer is textured wallpaper.

We might try to use drill screws that can replace a universal plug in masonite so we don't have to pre-drill. What do you think about this?
 
The neighbor's explanation seems confused. No masonite is visible in the picture. I think it is concrete possibly with plaster on it. For the wall is probably not hollow, but solid?
When was the house built?
 
Seems mostly like gibberish, both from the association and the neighbor.
 
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The association cannot say that there is no asbestos, so then they take the precautionary principle and say that it occurs without further specification.
 
L lordi said:
The neighbor's explanation seems confused. No masonite is visible in the picture. I think it is concrete with possible plaster on it. Because the wall is not hollow, but is solid?
When was the house built?
Exactly! The wall is solid and there is no masonite in the holes that are made. Thanks for the input!
 
Just the other day I was watching one of those American "buy houses that we fix" programs where there was asbestos in the popcorn ceiling. And there seems to be some type of texture on the wall. It could be in that there is asbestos even if I haven't heard anything about such before, but then this thread popped up.
 
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As mentioned, they used to throw asbestos into everything back in the day, that's why Eternit plates are called "eternety" because they last forever, asbestos was the best material to have in things for them to last.
 
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I have eternit windowsills at home throughout the house :poop::rolleyes:
 
  • Label on an Eternit window sill with text "MASSIV en fönsterbänk från Eternit Skand. Eternit AB Lomma," showing gray stone-like texture.
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M Zolt said:
I have eternit window sills at home throughout the house :poop::rolleyes:
Yes, those are likely very common. I had them in my old apartment and it was they that eventually led me to find out that there was asbestos in the floor too. The labels on mine were not visible when they were mounted (recessed into the outer wall), but a previous owner had disassembled two of them and kept them in the basement storage.

The remaining ones I later painted with several layers of plastic paint to avoid scraping them when moving flower pots, etc.
 
M Zolt said:
I have eternit windowsills at home throughout the house :poop::rolleyes:
Had exactly the same windowsills with the same label underneath.
They went out during the window replacement 10 years ago.
Lucky not to have an asbestos phobia with eternit windowsills and eternit on the roof :)
 
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What can one say about such a response... It doesn't feel very reassuring when the association can't support a claim with facts. It's a pity, as I unfortunately didn't get to learn more about asbestos presence in walls. Hope the shelf turned out well
There is internit and then perhaps you've heard of popcorn ceilings? In the pictures, it looks like a typical popcorn ceiling to me (even though this was now about a wall). Not many people think about it, but popcorn ceilings OFTEN contain asbestos.
 
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