john68 john68 said:
Or if you have access to a truck! Neighbor's folks! [image]
I have one or two more pictures, but I can add that they moved the truck now and then to reach. Quite unstable! If you think this is remarkable, you should have seen when they built the new warehouse. No harnesses or scaffolding. Similar to what you see in the picture.

snuttjulle snuttjulle said:
I mean that the total price becomes lower if you get money for excellent pallets and maybe even have some left for things other than the walkway on the shelving. I have tried multiple times to use free materials to make something cheap, but it ended up being more expensive than buying the right one directly. But if it's just about using pallets, fill them up all the way and secure them as you go with what you have available.
 
I have worked a bit on scaffolding according to the system suggested by the thread starter. Nailed with rough-sawn lumber. Two-inch planks for the rest and boards for the diagonal braces. Two-inch planks to walk on. It works well if you don't skimp on the lumber. You can use roundwood directly from the forest for the posts if you want, which saves on planks.

I believe that scaffolding should be nailed with smooth wire nails. Screws are dangerous because they can fatigue and break without warning when the structure flexes, and home-nailed scaffolding always flexes a little.

In recent years, I have acquired used frame scaffolding a little at a time. Mostly discarded parts that can be repaired but that could be obtained for scrap prices. The idea is to have fewer wooden scaffolds in the future.
 
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john68 john68 said:
I have one or two more pictures, but I can add that they moved the truck from time to time so they would reach. Wobbly indeed. If you think this is remarkable, you should have seen when they built the new warehouse. No harnesses or scaffolding. Similar to what you see in the picture.
Under-the-table workers? No sensible person would stand on a forklift without a proper basket. Counterbalance forklifts wobble way too much even if you have an approved basket up there 5 meters high.
 
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At those cheap construction companies that are popular among customers, it is completely normal to stand on the rounded side at the back of the excavator bucket and work 6 meters or more above the ground. I tied a rope around my waist and fastened it to the excavator arm to have some sort of safety, and received a two-hour scolding from the site manager for it with threats of a pay cut because I was too cowardly and not working efficiently. A few weeks later, I quit and started at a construction site where I could nail my own wooden scaffolds.
 
Rkarlsson said:
Black market worker? No sensible person would stand on a truck without a proper basket. Counterbalance forklifts sway way too much even if you have an approved basket 5 meters up.
No, but a Polish company that has worked for xxxx since we moved here in '96. Taxed and clear!
 
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A wooden structure with a ladder leaning against it. A cat sits near an opening. Described as a '77 building with decent eaves but unsafe pallet placement. my first build - 77, a pretty decent eave structure. But using pallets probably would have been irresponsible. It's still available if anyone wants to rent.
 
  • Wooden roof eave scaffolding leaning against a rough wall, with scattered construction materials around it.
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john68 john68 said:
No, not at all. But a Polish company that has worked for xxxx since we moved here in '96. Taxed and all clear!
Yes, there was really no collective agreement there. I looked once more. They have just stacked 15-16 pallets and then nailed "railing"? Didn't see if the high stack was secured in any way.
 
Rkarlsson said:
Yes, there was really no collective agreement there. Checked an extra time. They have just stacked 15-16 pallets and then nailed a "rail"? Didn't see if the tall stack was secured in any way.
The "basket" on top is held together with straps around it, if I remember correctly. Maybe some nails too...
 
S Sven E-sson said:
Made a stand that is attached to the house. Very stable! Why don't they equip houses with brackets from the start?
Houses are not equipped with brackets precisely so that people don't build that type of stand. You feel that it is "very stable" and gradually add loads that you haven't calculated the structural strength for, become a bit careless, and before you can think "saved money," you're on the ground enjoying some reflection while waiting for the ambulance.
 
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Hm..... Got this error on your link "Error code: SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN"
It's protesting due to a bad certificate. You need to click on "Advanced" below and confirm that you want to follow the link anyway.

It's a completely safe gu.se address and leads directly to the PDF you want. For those who missed it: httpswww.hantverkslaboratorium.gu.se/digitalAssets/1382/1382930_rapport-trastallningar-2011-web.pdf is a comprehensive report on building a wooden scaffolding according to current requirements (see the report for specifics of which requirements).

To OP:

I'll say this, by all means, build your own scaffolding. Our entire houses are frame constructions with proper fastenings that are then loaded with tons of roof tiles, plasterboards, and whatever else it becomes. Why would a properly dimensioned and constructed temporary frame construction right next to the house suddenly be dangerous?

BUT: I agree with others, skip the pallets. No matter how you do it, it becomes unwieldy as hell when you're setting them up/down, and even if they're theoretically rated for 1500kg, they'll never be safer on the scaffolding than their attachment.

In the report, they use 45 x 145 as the "floor," and I would do the same. The money you save on pallets won't feel worth it when you realize how unbelievably cumbersome it was.

In my unpretentious youth, I built an extremely temporary scaffolding out of just 45 x 95 studs and 25 x 120 cladding. The cladding tied all three boards together with cross ribs of discarded overlap panels. Also used overlap panels for supports and fastened them into approximately 70 cm long bits of 45 x 45 studs properly driven into the ground with a sledgehammer. Now this was only at 1.5 meters height. But still; almost all reused wood from a dismantled fence, only anchor screws and 5.4 x 70 decking screws. Sturdy as a rock, just a bit of flex in the cladding.

Consider then doing it properly according to the report above. Using entirely C24 graded timber, all fastened with 8 x 70 hex screws with flanges.

By the way, they claim in the report that C24 graded timber wasn't easy to come by in stores; was that so in 2011? That claim sounds very odd today.
 
torparavgrund torparavgrund said:
BUT: Like others say, skip the pallets. No matter how you go about it, it becomes a hassle when mounting/dismounting them, and even if they are theoretically approved for 1500kg, they will never be safer in their position than their attachment.
Built the frame today, didn't think it was particularly difficult. Lifting up the pallets was by far the quickest part, took about fifteen minutes. It turned out incredibly stable. Almost ridiculously stable. If it weren't for the fact that I'm having friends help me with the roof, I would have settled for a much simpler construction.

Total cost ended up being 0 SEK since I managed to build everything from leftover wood from this and previous projects ;)
 
Now I think you forgot the pictures ;)
 
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maah maah said:
Now I think you forgot the pictures ;)
Hehe, don't know if I dare, the rig might just blow over from the storm of criticism that would follow... ;)
 
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M Markus P said:
Hehe, don't know if I dare, the structure might blow over from the storm of criticism that follows... ;)
Ignore the complainers. They're just grumpy because they can't/won't do much themselves. Show those of us who are interested instead.
 
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K Krille_90_ said:
Ignore the whiners. They're just grumpy because they can't/don't feel like doing much themselves. Show us who are interested instead
I'll try to remember to take some pictures tomorrow (y)
 
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