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Beginner question - which screw? And will the construction hold?
Biltema has affordable wall rails and 47cm brackets,http://www.biltema.se/sv/Bygg/Forvaring/Vagghylla/Konsol-2000022257/specter said:
Wall track systems will work perfectly fine for 600 mm shelves, provided they are securely screwed into the wall and have at least 470 mm brackets. Find the studs and make sure to screw the tracks into them. I understand the advantage of not having floor-standing shelves in a garage, it makes it easier to keep the floor clean.
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Butf91jsw said:
Moral of the story: No matter how you turn, your bum is always behind youspecter said:
Forget the first cheap brackets you linked to.
47 deep is the minimum for 60 cm shelves.
Consider if 30 cm shelf depth works, or 20 cm.
Why do you need 60 cm? Those are pretty wide shelves.
Pelly system/equivalent is the best if you want wall-mounted.
It is easy and cheaper to make your own brackets from wood. They also become quite strong. However, they take up some space underneath due to diagonal bracing.
Shelves work with regular 22mm raw boards, or lighter if it's on 60 cm centers between the studs, (but then you have to build twice as many brackets).
Usually, there aren't high finish requirements in a garage. However, it needs to be robust and durable.
Regardless of the system (own or purchased) it needs to be fastened into the studs.
47 deep is the minimum for 60 cm shelves.
Consider if 30 cm shelf depth works, or 20 cm.
Why do you need 60 cm? Those are pretty wide shelves.
Pelly system/equivalent is the best if you want wall-mounted.
It is easy and cheaper to make your own brackets from wood. They also become quite strong. However, they take up some space underneath due to diagonal bracing.
Shelves work with regular 22mm raw boards, or lighter if it's on 60 cm centers between the studs, (but then you have to build twice as many brackets).
Usually, there aren't high finish requirements in a garage. However, it needs to be robust and durable.
Regardless of the system (own or purchased) it needs to be fastened into the studs.
Update.
Have decided that a wall system like elfa/Biltema/byggmax is the best.
We will also mix some depths, using 40, 50, and 60cm in different places.
Elfa is too expensive.
Biltema seems most affordable, so that's what we'll go with.
The only thing I'm considering now is whether to go with the version with wall rails that you screw into the wall and then hang on brackets or if we should use a top track and then hook on hanging rails.
Which is best and most stable?
It's a bit annoying that Biltema's top track only comes in a width of 101.5 cm.
But I assume it's not a problem to splice these together?
Have decided that a wall system like elfa/Biltema/byggmax is the best.
We will also mix some depths, using 40, 50, and 60cm in different places.
Elfa is too expensive.
Biltema seems most affordable, so that's what we'll go with.
The only thing I'm considering now is whether to go with the version with wall rails that you screw into the wall and then hang on brackets or if we should use a top track and then hook on hanging rails.
Which is best and most stable?
It's a bit annoying that Biltema's top track only comes in a width of 101.5 cm.
But I assume it's not a problem to splice these together?
The hanging rails tend to be a bit larger (the measurement from the wall outwards), but I still find the result wobbly and unstable. Then, undeniably, there are significantly fewer attachments to the wall with the support rail = possibly less load-bearing capacity. The rail is usually fastened with a screw every 30 centimeters, which becomes about two per vertical rail. If you attach the rails directly to the wall, you can put many more screws per rail.
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I would be a bit hesitant about these kinds of "hobby systems" in the garage.
The idea is to store rather heavy items there, but on Biltema, for example, there is no information on how much you can load these bearing rails, hanging tracks, and brackets.
Unlike the shelves I suggested earlier.
The idea is to store rather heavy items there, but on Biltema, for example, there is no information on how much you can load these bearing rails, hanging tracks, and brackets.
Unlike the shelves I suggested earlier.
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