Are studs not made straight anymore?

[cpalm]

avoiding rain on the timber feels like a good start...

this is how it looks in too many places...

Isn't it pressure-treated that's in the "open" places? That's how it is at Byggmax here.

Karl Hedin's timber is better than Byggmax, I guess there are different qualities there.

Karl Hedin is probably the exception as they have their own timber production, so there is at least a reasonable explanation for why they would have comparatively higher quality on the shelves.

 

[Cole006]

The whole thing is really about as much profit as possible for the sawmills.
The quality of timber is worse these days. (see image).
Fast-grown timber weighs less (dried) and warps more easily.
Trees grow faster in southern Sweden than in Norrland. The distance between the growth rings becomes longer.
The trees are harvested much younger, and the timber is also dried incredibly much faster these days.
In addition, slender studs are split from a larger piece at the planer. Easy to see on the growth rings. Therefore, some studs are straighter than others in the same package.

Do not let the timber sit at home for too long before installation. Protect it with plastic/tarpaulin. And preferably band it together.

 

[Cole006]

Isn't it pressure-treated wood that is in the "open" places?
That's how it is at Byggmax here.

Karl Hedin is probably the exception, as they have their own timber production, so there is at least a reasonable explanation for why they might have comparatively higher quality on the shelves.

Ab Karl Hedin is nowadays only made up of 53 building merchants.
All manufacturing is sold.

 

[Träkirurgen]

It's really all about as much profit as possible for the sawmills.
The quality of timber is worse nowadays. (see picture).
Rapid growth timber weighs less (dried) and is more prone to warping.
Trees grow faster in southern Sweden than in Norrland. The distance between growth rings increases.
Trees are harvested much younger and the timber is also dried incredibly much faster nowadays.
Additionally, slender studs are split from a larger piece at the planer. Easy to see on the growth rings. Hence, some studs are straighter than others in the same package.

Do not let the timber sit at home too long before assembly. Protect it with plastic/tarpaulin. And preferably band it together.

A picture is worth a thousand words!

 

[cpalm]

Ab Karl Hedin now consists of only 53 building merchants.
All manufacturing is sold.

OK, but does that mean they now purchase the wood on the open market, like everyone else?

 

[TheGame]

My own experience and a good friend's experience who has had a construction company in Stockholm for around 15 years.

If the local Byggmax doesn't store wood inappropriately, it sounds more like you and your friend have gotten the idea that you are unable to fix and build if the timber isn't perfectly straight.
These are wood products. Long beams don't need to be perfectly straight, you solve it.

Furthermore, there are a few building supply stores where I live, including Byggmax, where they all maintain roughly the same quality. Some things may differ, like the surface treatment on pre-painted boards, etc.

 

[Huddingebo]

If the local byggmax does not store any inappropriately, it sounds more like you and your friend have convinced yourselves that you are incapable of fixing and building if the timber is not perfectly straight.
It is wood products. Long beams do not need to be perfectly straight; you solve it.

By the way, I have a few building stores where I live including byggmax where they all maintain similar quality. Something can differ but it could typically be the surface treatment on primed boards, etc.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about. Of course, beams don't have to be perfectly straight, who has claimed that?

 

[HenrikHuslöse]

Or he should ensure that customers don't pick out the straight planks and leave the banana-shaped ones.

Exactly. Social pressure on the customer not to stand and tear out half the lumber package in search of the perfect plank.

 

[Intet]

Yep. Social pressure on the customer not to stand there and tear apart half of the lumber package in search of the perfect piece.

So the customer should feel pressured to buy second-rate at first-rate prices? Smart😬

When I buy for myself, of course, I pick the finest strawberries, potatoes, joy girls I can find. Anything else would be downright stupid.

 

[PeO Grenholm]

Hi
I have now been to two building supply stores (kbygg and byggmax) on my hunt for studs 45x70. I'm searching high and low for ones that aren't bent or warped. I thought the standard was that the studs would be perfectly straight? Is the reason that I'm looking now that I'm not alone in starting building projects, and all the straight ones have already been sold?

Best regards

Think about it a little... how do you lower the price of a stud in a discount store? you don't leave it to dry for two years at least... down from the tree and onto the shelf...
If you buy cheese, you have to pay more for the ones that are aged 22 instead of 2 months.

 

[Intet]

Think a little for yourself... how do you lower the price of a rule in a low-cost store? you certainly don't leave it to dry for two years... down from the tree and out on the shelf...
When you buy cheese, you pay more for those aged 22 months instead of 2 months.

Think a little for yourself... There is no building supply store that dries lumber for two years.
The more expensive ones charge private individuals more for similar timber because they offer large discounts to companies. Have we heard that somewhere?😀

The new hires at Beijer immediately get a staff discount of 38%. Far more than what a private individual with an account gets. But far less than what Skanska gets. Byggmax, on the other hand, has no discount system at all. As far as I know 😁.

 

[TheGame]

You obviously don't know what you're talking about. Of course, studs don't need to be perfectly straight, who has claimed that?

It just felt like a strange statement what you wrote.
As if the person made a big mistake by going to Byggmax and checking, and you can never get quality there.
If it's not locally bad for you, then it's probably more or less the same crap everywhere 😅

 

[TheGame]

So the customer should feel pressured to buy second-rate items at first-rate prices? Smart😬

If I'm buying for myself, I naturally pick the finest strawberries, potatoes, glädjeflickor I can find. Anything else would be purely stupid.

Where do you buy glädjeflickor?
Are you a Thailand traveler? 😂

 

[Huddingebo]

It just felt like a strange statement, what you wrote. As if the person made a huge mistake by being at byggmax and looked and you can never get quality there. If it's not locally bad for you, then it's probably more or less the same stuff everywhere 😅

It has been notorious for many years within the construction industry, at least in Stockholm, that byggmax mostly sells at the lowest price instead of an okay price and tolerable quality. Sometimes you are forced to buy there anyway because the dimension you need is missing or out of stock elsewhere. And every time it's the same thing. You have to sort through a lot more wood than if you buy at, for example, Hornbach or Karl Hedin.

 

[Hep]

It has been notorious for many years within the construction scene, at least in Stockholm, that Byggmax mostly sells at the lowest price instead of a fair price and decent quality.
Sometimes you are forced to buy there anyway because the dimension you need is missing or out of stock elsewhere.
And every time it's the same thing. You have to sift through much more timber than if you buy at, for example, Hornbach or Karl Hedin.

I asked you before: Do you mean that wood marked with the same classification is worse at Byggmax? Please feel free to answer that, and preferably explain how it can be so.

What you're claiming about truths in the "construction scene" doesn't quite align with what Byggmax's timber suppliers say, so it would be interesting to know more.