Hello,
I have now been to two building supply stores (kbygg and byggmax) searching for studs 45x70. I'm having to search high and low to find any that aren't warped or twisted. I thought the standard was for the studs to be perfectly straight? Is the reason that I'm looking right now, thinking that I'm not the only one starting up building projects, and all the straight ones have already been sold?
Hello
I have now been to two hardware stores (kbygg and byggmax) in my search for studs 45x70. I'm searching high and low for those that are not warped or twisted. I thought the standard was for the studs to be perfectly straight? Is the reason that I'm searching right now, thinking that I'm not alone in starting construction projects, and all the straight ones have already been sold?
Best regards
Hello,
I don't have a good answer but feel that the quality is going down and prices are going up.
I recognize the phenomenon.
I have stopped buying from them, I buy from Karl Hedin. They are not only straighter, you can feel that they weigh much more (i.e. denser wood) and are better planed.
A rule is never straight after it has absorbed or released additional moisture. As far as I know, there are no major sawmills that cut dried timber. And even then, it's not guaranteed that they are straight.
Older slowly-grown timber doesn't bend as easily, though.
As far as I know, there are no large sawmills that cut fully dried timber.
No, that's practically the problem. I understand that the drying process itself also has significance in this context. Personally, I haven't experienced any major issues finding straight studs at Byggmax. Maybe it varies with the season?
No, that is practically the issue. I understand that the drying process itself also plays a role in the matter.
Personally, I have not experienced any major issues finding straight studs at Byggmax. Maybe it varies with the season?
The problem is probably that they are not plan-dry when unpacked, and then they warp during drying. I find that lumber that has been at the lumberyard over the winter without packing straps is almost always warped. Better to wait for new fresh deliveries.
Well, that's practically the problem. I've understood that the actual drying process also matters in this context. Personally, I haven't experienced major problems finding straight studs at Byggmax. Maybe it varies with the season?
I don't know what it's like at Byggmax today, but about 10 years ago, the Byggmax stores around here bought second-grade timber from nearby sawmills, sometimes even third-grade. K-rauta, as it was called then, was just a block away from Byggmax and also purchased from the same sawmills, but they bought first-grade, so at Byggmax you had to carefully inspect each stud, especially during decking season, while at K-rauta you could usually just load up. If Byggmax still handles purchases in the same way, it probably differs a lot across the country how easy/difficult it is to find straight studs.
The trick is to buy timber that is not piled loosely like a pick-up stick in the lumberyard, but preferably bundled together in a large batch. Order from professional dealers so they also bundle smaller quantities. The secret then is to absolutely NOT unpack the studs before you need them. That way, most are fairly straight, and when they are locked into a construction, they often stay straight (forced to do so).
If you buy timber that is NOT bundled, then lay it neatly and flat at home and immediately bundle it together with tension straps. Together they want to bend differently, so when they lie close to each other, their forces cancel each other out. The same effect as when you split a stud, turn one part, and screw glue them back together.
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