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Angle screwing
Now you're being very unpleasant. I've received help from several people here, so I think it's gone just fine anyway.Nyfniken said:Now, this is a forum for building enthusiasts who are private individuals. A large number of people contribute with their knowledge based on professional life and experiences. Together, they brainstorm ideas back and forth to come up with the best solution to construction problems. All collected threads thus become a huge free (!) searchable knowledge bank for future builders with solutions to all conceivable and inconceivable problems. To get free (!) help with your problems, you are therefore expected to answer follow-up questions about the question from the group. Because the answer to the question should not only help you but also future builders who are not expected to know how to build an interior wall in the best way.
If you're going to complain about the service and be smug towards people who are trying to help you do the job in the best way possible, then you might as well go to a hardware store and pay for your assistance, as it's likely only people who are paid can tolerate your attitude.
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· Östergötland
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Nice thread!
as an old timer in the construction industry, I have my own opinion on how everything should be done. now the studio did exactly as the studio should. just good with a determined opinionStudion said:
You misunderstand. It is perceived as annoying when you ask a straightforward and specific question, and people responding do so with new questions that lead in a completely different direction from what you asked for help with, without providing any assistance with the requested issue. It then feels more like hindrance than help, and it also risks diverting the thread from the original question from the very first response, possibly resulting in the original query never getting an answer.andersmc said:
One can have opinions about the phenomenon, but that's how it is, and similar things happen quite regularly.
So, no one has anything against other advice and tips, but it should go hand in hand with help/answers regarding the presented question.
I find it a bit interesting that right from the start you were one of those who came with completely different suggestions and didn't respond to the original question, and also got quite upset when ts stood their ground. Now you're almost criticizing those who think that ts should have been a bit friendlier in their responses and attitude. Why this change of heart?SBH said:
upset?? not me. maybe I just express myself poorlyelpaco said:I find it a bit interesting that you were one of those who came up with completely different suggestions from the start and didn't answer the original question, and also got quite upset when the OP stood their ground. Now you're almost scolding those who think the OP could have been a bit friendlier in their responses and attitude. Why this change of heart?
As an observer, I find that you yourself are about as unpleasant in tone as nyfniken.Studion said:
But I often try to look beyond the actual "tone" in posts, often we have slightly different styles here in such forums, and that only leads to misunderstandings.
And anyway, I agree that you asked a pretty straightforward question in the first post and the answers that first rolled in were not answers to your question. But I also want to point out that the same has happened in threads I started, things have veered off in directions I hadn't thought or wanted. But sometimes I've also come to a new insight or gotten new ideas and done everything in a completely different and better way than I first thought, thanks to the thread veering off a bit on its own tracks. So it's definitely not always a bad thing.
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· Halland
· 28 345 posts
Now that it has gone this far (are we on the third round?), it doesn't hurt to take it around once more 
TS wrote as an explanation for his obsession with angled screws that
When working with the studs standing, you have to work a lot upwards, which is strenuous for the shoulders. (I know, I have the same problem.)
So you are better off screwing the whole thing together while it's lying down, preferably on stands to get a good working height.
And then you might as well screw from the bottom/top plate into the "standing" studs, as many here have suggested.
It makes the job easier! And it's a working method I would have chosen. Angled screwing is actually a bit tricky. It's easy for the stud to move and get crooked, and for the stud to crack at the end.
TS wrote as an explanation for his obsession with angled screws that
If you have some insight into ergonomics, which I happen to have as an aside, you should work with the framework lying down rather than standing.Studion said:
When working with the studs standing, you have to work a lot upwards, which is strenuous for the shoulders. (I know, I have the same problem.)
So you are better off screwing the whole thing together while it's lying down, preferably on stands to get a good working height.
And then you might as well screw from the bottom/top plate into the "standing" studs, as many here have suggested.
It makes the job easier! And it's a working method I would have chosen. Angled screwing is actually a bit tricky. It's easy for the stud to move and get crooked, and for the stud to crack at the end.
Great that you are making another attempt!KnockOnWood said:
I would like to hear TS's motive for skew-screwing. It's just a bad compromise you resort to when you can't access the wood from the right direction.
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· Halland
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