Alternatives for outer corners drywall without corner protectors? How is it done in new construction?

[oliven1]

What is common might not matter, it doesn't seem unreasonable that at least one side is chamfered... The one against the patio door could, for example, be easily chamfered with some leftover piece from an inner corner.

but now I just said that it is the most common that you don't have chamfered edges in outer corners so that TS doesn't have it shouldn't be a problem at all.

 

[bygges]

but now I only said that it's absolutely most common not to have beveled edges in outer corners, so that TS doesn't have it shouldn't be a problem at all.

Problem or not, with beveled edges, the aquabead fits into the bevel perfectly and it is much easier to quickly cover with joint compound.

I have placed aquabead on other places without a beveled edge (read: wall), it requires several layers of joint compound to remove the perforations. Doing this on a wall is of course perfectly fine but again, I have no desire on 70 mm drywall against a new patio door. You can tape to protect the patio door from the joint trowel for my inner demons, yes, then you remove the tape and the joint compound comes off, etc., etc. Then you'll get a different angle than 90 degrees in the reveal because the aquabead lays on top of the drywall and not in a bevel.

 

[oliven1]

Problem or not, with beveled edges, the aquabead fits precisely into the bevel and it's much easier to quickly apply filler over it.

I've installed aquabead in other places without a beveled edge (read wall), it requires several layers of filler to remove the perforations. Doing this on a wall is of course perfectly okay, but again, I have no desire for 70 mm plasterboard against a new patio door. You can tape to protect the patio door from the filler spatula for my brain ghosts yes, then you remove the tape and filler follows along etc etc. Then you'll get a different angle than 90 degrees in the reveal because the aquabead lies on top of the plasterboard and not in a bevel.

you won't get a different angle, you'll still get 90 degrees even if you're using cut edges.

 

[bygges]

you won't get another angle, you will get 90 degrees even if you use cut edges

No, put an aquabead and you'll see.

 

[oliven1]

No, use an aquabead and you'll see.

Of course I have, why wouldn't it be 90 degrees?
You're spreading the filler towards the door, so the entire wall gets filled out.

 

[bygges]

of course I have done it, why wouldn't it be 90 degrees?
you are plastering out towards the door so the entire wall is plastered out

Aquabeaden tilts/builds 2 mm at the edge so if you plaster against it, it won't be 90 degrees.

 

[oliven1]

Aquabeaden leans/builds 2 mm at the edge so if you plaster against it, it won't be 90 degrees.

but you're plastering the entire wall around the door about 150 mm or whatever you had.

 

[Plupp 618974]

Aquabead is great. Go for it. Tape your new beautiful door with a few layers of masking tape. Spread the putty—don't hammer it in with the putty knife, it's putty, not nails.

All other methods are the worst and SHOULD be avoided. They will be weak, impractical, or will crack, and you will have to redo it, patch with ugly moldings, or live with substandard work. Don't trust anyone who claims otherwise.

Use Aquabead (or equivalent). Just do it.

 

[Installation]

You can't assume from your small skewed world they are indeed used in new production😉

Metal is used very rarely nowadays. Partly because it is more expensive than paper guards and performs worse. They come off more easily and the paint on the outer corner adheres less well than on paper. The price for repairing outer corners has dropped significantly since paper corners started being used.

 

[Installation]

What is common may not matter, it doesn't seem unreasonable that at least one side is beveled... The one facing the patio door, for example, should be easy to have beveled with some scrap piece from an inner corner.

One avoids it as much as possible. Only one thing is worse and that is bevelling in inner corners.

 

[Plupp 405730]

Sheet metal is rarely used nowadays. It's partly more expensive than paper shields and performs worse. They come off more easily, and the paint on the outer corner adheres less well than on paper. The cost of repairing outer corners has significantly decreased since paper corners began to be used.

Don't agree, work in the small house industry with both new production and ROT...

 

[Installation]

I don't agree, I work in the small house industry with both new production and renovation...

Ok, then you do it like that. I haven't seen a metal corner since the Dacke War. Now I work exclusively with projects around half a billion and upwards, and that's a different matter, especially on the after-market side. But I haven't seen it in the smaller residential homes or hotels I've been involved with either.

 

[Plupp 405730]

Ok, then you do it like that. I haven't seen a metal corner since the Dacke War. Now I work exclusively with projects around half a billion and up, and it's a different matter, especially on the aftermarket side. But I haven't seen it in the smaller residential buildings or hotels I've been involved in either.

You are like the olive comparing large constructions with small houses, it's not the same thing, but indeed different types of corner protectors have appeared, yet everyone who gets to choose wants the metal in their homes because they withstand some damage which the paper corners do not.

 

[Installation]

You are like the olive, comparing large constructions with small houses, it's not the same thing. But sure, different types of corner protectors have emerged, but everyone who gets to choose wants the metal ones in their homes because they withstand a bit of impact, which the paper corners do not.

I'm thinking like this. Those who build a lot receive a lot of defect reports. For that reason, they have more data on what is good versus less good. Paper corners are an example of development for the better. In terms of installation, durability, and cost. It's no coincidence that 99% of all outer corners are done with paper. Sometimes, small-scale builders can actually learn from large-scale operations and vice versa. Good technical solutions, regardless of where they come from, are worth considering. Then you're more than welcome to use your metal corners if you prefer them. I also have quite extensive experience from renovation projects with significantly lower contract amounts. Both as a former carpenter and site manager. It's been 15 years, but even then, metal protections were relatively uncommon.

 

[bygges]

but you are plastering the whole wall around the door about 150 mm or whatever you had.

70 mm as mentioned. It's not 90 degrees, then whether you think it matters or not is another thing.