I have changed my mind. I agree with Geschwint.
For example, buy and deliver the materials yourself. Give them a bag of pastries so they like you and work faster.
That way it's cost-effective and better built.
(I neither have nor want a home entirely of plaster. It was just the final bill I didn't like)
For example, buy and deliver the materials yourself. Give them a bag of pastries so they like you and work faster.
That way it's cost-effective and better built.
(I neither have nor want a home entirely of plaster. It was just the final bill I didn't like)
I agree regarding only drywall! It's not something I want to have, there are plenty of disadvantages with molly even if it works!
I'd rather save that cost of installing OSB on something else! Especially with a girl who changes the interior design more often than I change my underwear!
I'd rather save that cost of installing OSB on something else! Especially with a girl who changes the interior design more often than I change my underwear!
I usually think like this about various things:
* Is there a risk that I'll regret it if I DON'T choose OSB?
- Yes, there is.
* Is there a risk that I'll regret it if I choose OSB?
- No, probably not.
* How easy is it to change my mind afterwards in a few years?
- Not so easy, would have to tear down a lot.
Then I take the cost and divide it by the number of years I plan to live there. An initial cost can be large, but if it's something that brings joy for a long time, the cost must be spread over time. Then I make my decision
* Is there a risk that I'll regret it if I DON'T choose OSB?
- Yes, there is.
* Is there a risk that I'll regret it if I choose OSB?
- No, probably not.
* How easy is it to change my mind afterwards in a few years?
- Not so easy, would have to tear down a lot.
Then I take the cost and divide it by the number of years I plan to live there. An initial cost can be large, but if it's something that brings joy for a long time, the cost must be spread over time. Then I make my decision
Since I started this thread a long time ago, it's time to return with some thoughts. The reason I asked the question initially was, as kjb noted, the catalogue companies' markup for OSB is unjustifiably high, and as several others have commented, you can get quite a lot more for that money. Now it turns out I'm going to build with loose timber, and I'll be putting up the walls myself, which makes the cost for extra board ridiculously lower and an obvious choice.
I think kjb should pressure the house supplier and try to get a better deal, and then go with OSB on at least selected walls. Personally, I find it strange that house suppliers don't offer better prices on extra board material. It's one of those things that gives a sense of quality, when people go to viewings or check out show homes, they usually knock on the walls to get a feel for the quality (just like people go and kick the tires on cars, completely pointless but that's how it is), and it should be, therefore, a cheap advertising money for the house companies to give a "quality feel."
However, I don't think one should overestimate the value of OSB; it's actually quite simple to change later on, at least in selected areas. If you can instead get, for example, higher ceiling height for the same money, you might want to consider what's easier to change
I think kjb should pressure the house supplier and try to get a better deal, and then go with OSB on at least selected walls. Personally, I find it strange that house suppliers don't offer better prices on extra board material. It's one of those things that gives a sense of quality, when people go to viewings or check out show homes, they usually knock on the walls to get a feel for the quality (just like people go and kick the tires on cars, completely pointless but that's how it is), and it should be, therefore, a cheap advertising money for the house companies to give a "quality feel."
However, I don't think one should overestimate the value of OSB; it's actually quite simple to change later on, at least in selected areas. If you can instead get, for example, higher ceiling height for the same money, you might want to consider what's easier to change
I chose chipboard over OSB, the main reason was not the price but that they could be purchased in 250cm length. This makes things much easier when, like me, you are building with exactly 250cm ceiling height.
bjolo360 hope it was okay that I borrowed the thread. We probably have the same concerns. And thanks for many good suggestions The conclusion for me is. I don't think it will be so wrong no matter how we do it. Put up panels on all the walls (if we get a slightly better price), or get material ourselves and put up panels on selected walls.
The conclusion for me is. I don't think it will be so wrong no matter how we do it. Put up panels on all the walls (if we get a slightly better price), or get material ourselves and put up panels on selected walls.Need to ask about a reasonable labor cost for setting up OSB.
We have installed OSB in our new build, and the workers have used 68 OSB boards and spent 58 working hours on it. Almost an hour per board sounds to me like a real overprice. I'm considering disputing the invoice...
What is a reasonable cost for this?
They have charged fair prices for the boards themselves, 80:- each excluding VAT. But the working hours, I think, are way too much.
We have installed OSB in our new build, and the workers have used 68 OSB boards and spent 58 working hours on it. Almost an hour per board sounds to me like a real overprice. I'm considering disputing the invoice...
What is a reasonable cost for this?
They have charged fair prices for the boards themselves, 80:- each excluding VAT. But the working hours, I think, are way too much.
The OSB boards would even take much less time than the gypsum. You just throw them up, so to speak, they hardly need to sit nicely, just be functional. The cutting goes fast if it needs to be done, so you are definitely being grossly overcharged. A carpenter should be able to give a more exact answer.
That sounds like quite an overprice.
But I can agree that some sheets I've put up could have taken almost up to an hour, if there's a lot of cutting for windows, doorways, and electrical boxes. Besides the screwing.
But sure, I think the average speed should be around 20 minutes per sheet, or something like that.
Then there might be some general overhead to consider.
Time to order, bring in and prepare space. And some general cleaning and such afterwards, because that is a whole extra work step, with what it implies. There could certainly be a few hours there as well.
I would ask them what went wrong with the invoice, in your shoes.
But I can agree that some sheets I've put up could have taken almost up to an hour, if there's a lot of cutting for windows, doorways, and electrical boxes. Besides the screwing.
But sure, I think the average speed should be around 20 minutes per sheet, or something like that.
Then there might be some general overhead to consider.
Time to order, bring in and prepare space. And some general cleaning and such afterwards, because that is a whole extra work step, with what it implies. There could certainly be a few hours there as well.
I would ask them what went wrong with the invoice, in your shoes.
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21 mm raw sheathing and 6 mm renovation gypsum actually work well. Previously, it was (somewhat thicker) raw sheathing and about 7 mm tretex. The house is from 1920/45. But OSB works well for those who are in a hurry.
in the kitchen area where heavier items like the TV, etc., need to hang, I have plywood.
then I had a bunch of OSB sheets left over that I nailed there.
then in regular rooms, etc., I went to Byggmax and bought 10 mm chipboard.
you get 2 sheets for the price of 1 OSB sheet.
regards
snickar estwing
then I had a bunch of OSB sheets left over that I nailed there.
then in regular rooms, etc., I went to Byggmax and bought 10 mm chipboard.
you get 2 sheets for the price of 1 OSB sheet.
regards
snickar estwing
I was planning to put up an interior wall with a door, and using OSB board seems good, but what about the door since the wall with OSB on each side will be about 2 cm wider. Will a standard door frame work, or do I need to look for a wider special one?
I think I only need OSB on one side of the wall, and then it will be 11 mm extra in width, maybe a standard door frame will work.
I think I only need OSB on one side of the wall, and then it will be 11 mm extra in width, maybe a standard door frame will work.
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