Hello,
We are renovating the kitchen (70s house with a wooden frame) and the first step is to sand and fill the ceiling and walls, which consist of masonite board. Previously, I've used coarse filler from Beckers, fine filler from Bostik, and even Husfix from Casco, but only in small amounts (tubes and the like). In this case, it's a room of nearly 20 sqm that needs filling, would a 10 L bucket be reasonable? Which type and brand should I be looking for?
Since it's a wooden house and the walls consist of thicker masonite boards on studs, I suspect that some form of strips might also be needed on the walls to avoid cracks in the wallpaper?
We are renovating the kitchen (70s house with a wooden frame) and the first step is to sand and fill the ceiling and walls, which consist of masonite board. Previously, I've used coarse filler from Beckers, fine filler from Bostik, and even Husfix from Casco, but only in small amounts (tubes and the like). In this case, it's a room of nearly 20 sqm that needs filling, would a 10 L bucket be reasonable? Which type and brand should I be looking for?
Since it's a wooden house and the walls consist of thicker masonite boards on studs, I suspect that some form of strips might also be needed on the walls to avoid cracks in the wallpaper?
consider if you should remove the masonite and put up new gypsum, then you can also rout in new electricity if needed.
Otherwise, as sblixten says, go for 10 liters, it will probably be much cheaper than buying tubes, moreover, it keeps quite well in the bucket so if you have some left over you can save it.
Otherwise, as sblixten says, go for 10 liters, it will probably be much cheaper than buying tubes, moreover, it keeps quite well in the bucket so if you have some left over you can save it.
Hmm.. I haven't actually thought about removing the masonite at all. My idea was to track in the walls with a circular saw!? But sure, it might be better to replace the masonite, the electrical work is going to be moved around quite a bit actually. However, it will be quite a few extra hours of work.
So it's medium filler I should use, does it work for both wood and plaster? Is there any particular brand I should look for? Beckers?
So it's medium filler I should use, does it work for both wood and plaster? Is there any particular brand I should look for? Beckers?
Trace in masonite, install electrical wiring and then putty? That would mean filling in a lot. I would have used gypsum plaster for the first layer because it doesn't shrink. Then I would have also glued over all the seams with microlit and wallpaper paste for wet rooms. And then puttied with medium putty. But the question is whether it will turn out well, the Masonite is likely to buckle quite a bit...
The masonite is quite thick, so it shouldn't buckle, I guess? I haven't thought much about how I would fill the tracking, but one idea might be to use the pieces I cut out and attach them with strips/microlite which are then puttied over.
Sounds like it's better to tear everything down, but it feels like an awful lot of work, unfortunately.
Sounds like it's better to tear everything down, but it feels like an awful lot of work, unfortunately.
This applies to only one room, but yes, I will try to take it down, though I suspect it breaks quite easily. Masonite I know how it is, it is usually the thin version on the back of bookshelves and similar. This has the same smooth surface and similar color but is clearly much thicker, 12 mm sounds reasonable. I will take some photos and send them to you. I know at least that they are attached with nails on quite wide studs that have a fairly long distance between them.
The thickness of the discs that are there today is 11 mm and looks like this:
Spciak that someone has tried to patch a bit poorly.
Here are larger images
http://imgur.com/a/fD6Sh
Spciak that someone has tried to patch a bit poorly.
Here are larger images
http://imgur.com/a/fD6Sh
The idea also occurred to me to put up renovation plasterboard, but what's there today isn't completely even, in some places it bulges a bit (though not visibly), and in another place there are larger level differences of several mm between the panels.
The best option is probably to take it down and put up 12 mm plasterboard (double), but that's probably quite a lot of work. Then the insulation will probably fall out, but maybe that's not the end of the world, just push it back in when the electricians are done.
What would you do? Take everything down and put up plasterboard? Leave it as it is and make grooves with a circular saw? Or put renovation plasterboard on top?
Is there any particular brand to look at when it comes to filler? Or should one buy the cheapest possible from Bygg max?
The best option is probably to take it down and put up 12 mm plasterboard (double), but that's probably quite a lot of work. Then the insulation will probably fall out, but maybe that's not the end of the world, just push it back in when the electricians are done.
What would you do? Take everything down and put up plasterboard? Leave it as it is and make grooves with a circular saw? Or put renovation plasterboard on top?
Is there any particular brand to look at when it comes to filler? Or should one buy the cheapest possible from Bygg max?
Well, I want to do it thoroughly from the beginning. If the electricity hadn't needed to be moved so much, I probably wouldn't even be considering taking down what's there, but now it's either take it down and put up plaster or cut into a lot. If I cut, there's always a risk of cutting into the studs, no idea if that's a problem, but it will probably be hard to avoid.sblixten said:
Regarding filler, I've received the following price quotes so far:
Flugger 10 liters Medium filler 399 kr
Sadolin 10 liters Medium wall filler 305 kr
There seem to be mixed opinions about Byggmax filler, so I'm definitely willing to pay a little extra to minimize the risk of more work.
Have tried many different fillers and don't think there's much of a difference. I use Byggmax light hand filler, 100 SEK/10 l.
Why not just go with a layer of standard plasterboard? It will cover the irregularities. You can probably get it OK with skim coating, but then you'll likely need to reinforce with fiberglass mesh first. A lot of work.
Why not just go with a layer of standard plasterboard? It will cover the irregularities. You can probably get it OK with skim coating, but then you'll likely need to reinforce with fiberglass mesh first. A lot of work.