PH is better than torx if you have to press down to insert the screw.
 
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useless useless said:
PH is better than torx if you have to press to get the screw in.
Hmm, I can't quite agree. I find that installing decking screws is much smoother than installing drywall screws or chipboard screws in terms of how easily the bits start slipping in the groove. Although drywall screws don't slip as easily as chipboard screws in my experience, I think torx is completely superior in all situations. The quality of the screw naturally also plays a role.
 
Well, torx doesn't slip as easily, but if you have to press at the same time, there's a greater risk of the screw 'tilting'. PH screw and the right bit are more stable sideways.
 
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Rickard.
I agree with useless here, it's evident if you try to screw, for example, a self-tapping screw without a drilling point through metal, the force you can apply is impossible with torx.

Then otherwise, torx probably requires a bit more metal in the screw head. Otherwise, I think in many cases it's simply cumbersome and expensive to switch from one standard to another if it's only slightly better.
 
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useless useless said:
Yes, torx doesn't slip as easily, but if you have to press at the same time, there's a greater risk of the screw 'tilting'. PH screw and the right bit are more stable sideways.
Ok, that makes sense. Thank you for clarifying. And especially on plasterboard, it's important that the screw is straight. However, it should work well with torx on chipboard screws. Still, most chipboard screws I've found are PH2.
 
The worst is the tinsmith's torx-like variant with eight slots instead of torx's six. It just sneers at you when you're standing there on the ladder with your torx bit. Even here, square bits fit.

A screw with an eight-point head resembling Torx, suitable for square bits, embedded in a white surface.
 
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