Where does Byggmax mortar really come from?

[mexitegel]

It's the same thing at the plaster plant, but of course mistakes can happen.

 

[Stefan1972]

I also looked for fun and the first thing that came up is Murbruk B M2,5 art 0112 if that's what the ts has looked at? There, the product sheet is indeed called combimix.pdf, but at the same time, there's nothing in the product sheet itself that indicates it really IS a product from combimix. It feels more like the person who uploaded all the product sheets hasn't been observant about what they name the file............

 

[useless]

Or they changed suppliers and overwrote the existing file...

 

[mexitegel]

The safety data sheet explicitly states that it comes from combimix. It may not be intentional but it is undeniably misleading and if I had bought this and received something other than combimix, I would have been moderately impressed.

 

[P-plats]

Oh, we would have had problems during an audit if we didn't have 110% order on chemicals and their safety data sheets at work...
Now, however, I work in another branch.

 

[Stefan1972]

The safety data sheet explicitly states that it comes from combimix. It may not be intentional but it is undeniably misleading, and if I had bought this and received something other than combimix, I would have been moderately impressed.

Oh, I see, I never looked at that. Well, then it's simple that combimix is filling byggmax's own bags then.........EMV goods in the construction trade, that is.

 

[mexitegel]

Have you even read earlier posts?

 

[Stefan1972]

Have you even read previous posts?

Yes, I have, it was just an answer to the question about the product sheets themselves. If the specific Buildmax store has something different on the shelf, you should probably ask the staff there, I would think. Maybe there are more local suppliers than what the website suggests.

If it's incredibly important what's in the bags, then I suggest, as you've already mentioned, buying branded products directly in that case. Then it doesn't matter who fills the budget bags?

 

[torparavgrund]

Byggmax fanboy here, I think Byggmax is quite OK if you take it for what it is - they compete with price through various methods and save on things like how much and how educated staff they have. The quality of especially the wood can vary greatly from one store to the next.

One way Byggmax keeps prices down is that they do NOT commit to long-term supplier agreements but can switch suppliers more often depending on who offers the best price.

I know I've bought both Weber kalkputs, Finja grovbetong, and some bag of "noname" mortel, all in different years at the same Byggmax store. Don't rely on what they have on the website; to know the exact brand/manufacturer, you have to go to the store. It doesn't always match up. Safety data sheets etc. are available; if they're not on the product, you have to ask for them.

And many brands/manufacturers have "budget series" that they sell to other retailers while preserving the premium brand for another retailer.

My favorite example: Biltema sells (note: my information from 2018) a Swedish-made fogsvans of excellent quality for a pittance. As far as I know, only Bahco and Hultafors still manufacture fogsvansar in Sweden.

 

[mexitegel]

Yes, I have, that was just an answer to the question about the product sheets themselves. If the current Byggmax store has something else on the shelf, you probably have to ask the staff there, I would think. Maybe there are more local suppliers than what the website suggests.

If it is incredibly important what is in the bags, then I suggest, as you have already suggested, that you buy brand products directly in that case. Then it does not matter who fills the budget bags?

Yes, it is incredibly important where it comes from because I want the same manufacturer for all the plaster products. Should there, against all odds, be a problem, I don't want them to be able to blame it on being a different manufacturer of the base coat, for example, or vice versa. If the stuff falls down, I want to have one party to turn to.

I almost bought mortar and plaster from Byggmax and complemented with base coat from Bauhaus, which sells combimix, because Byggmax doesn't have base coat in its range. It ended with me buying from Hornbach instead, much better order and structure. On their own "noname" bags, it says, for example, that they are manufactured by Finja.

 

[Stefan1972]

But there you're probably thinking incorrectly... if you buy cement from, for example, Hornbach, which is their own brand, but it might say that it's packed by Finja, Finja will probably not help you; instead, you will be referred to Hornbach.
If you want one and the same supplier of the products and a single point of contact if you encounter problems, it should probably be their own products in that case. In Finja bags, that is. Then you can buy them anywhere and still probably get help from them if something goes wrong.

 

[mexitegel]

Which part is so difficult to understand???? Let's go through it again. Had I bought from Byggmax based on what is stated on their website, I would have received different manufacturers of the plaster system. I don't want that, as explained above. Of course, you can buy bags from the same manufacturer at different purchasing locations. But then you can't expect to get help in the same way as if you buy everything at the same place from the same manufacturer. It's obvious, if you additionally buy bags from different manufacturers at different purchasing locations, you can forget about making any complaints at all.

I'll end here, the conclusion is that you need to be extra careful when shopping at Byggmax. For individual products, it generally matters less, but in this case, it's products that work together.

 

[Stefan1972]

What don't we understand? Honestly, I don't understand what you're getting at if we're being precise...........who said you have to buy unknown bags from Byggmax? Have they said you must do that? If you want it uniform and from the same manufacturer, buy products you feel secure with. The rest of us will carry on as usual.
If you want Byggmax to change their information about their bags on the website, take it up with them.

 

[torparavgrund]

I'm putting a stop here, the conclusion is that you have to be extra careful when shopping at Byggmax. For individual products, it generally matters less, but in this case, it is products that work together.

Then it's also a question of how big the difference is. I mean, if the end result is what matters and not the process, which is often the case with construction, how important is it that all products are from the same product series? Construction techniques usually rely on principles, with at most minor differences between different "systems". At worst, you might have to do a bit more reading.

If it's not a huge project in the hundred-thousand kronor class you're working on, I would venture to guess that the noname products will handle it just fine. Even if not all are of the same brand.

It's not THAT terribly high tech to mix concrete or mortar and pour into a bag.

 

[Kortling]

Yes, it's incredibly important where it comes from because I want the same manufacturer for all the plaster products. Should there, against all odds, be problems, I don't want them to blame it on having a different manufacturer for the red base, for example, or vice versa. If the stuff falls down, I want one party to turn to.

I almost bought mortar and plaster from Byggmax and supplemented with red base from Bauhaus, which sells combimix, because Byggmax doesn't have red base in their range. I ended up buying from Hornbach instead, much better organization. On their own "noname" bags it says, for example, that they are manufactured by Finja.

Name one time a consumer successfully made a claim about a faulty mortar to a manufacturer.